Battle Rating changes for January 2024 (post feedback)

Seeing as top tier ground is likely not going to be decompressed or fixed, I’ll just propose some seperate changes:

M1A2 SEPv2 - Add M829A3
This tank at the moment is worse than the SEPv1 while costing 2x the RP. I think end of the line vehicles should be at least on par or slightly better than the vehicles before them. This would also differentiate it more from the SEPv1 and give people an actual reason to spawn the SEPv2.

VT-4A1 - 11.7->11.3, swap positions with WZ1001 LCT
This tank is much more in line with the T-72B3, T-80U and M1A1 HC. It doesn’t have the mobility of the ZTZs at 11.7 and neither the protection or reload of the BVM (3 most comparable tanks). I feel that it’s only 11.7 due to the APS which has questionable usefulness at the moment.

Israeli Imp. Chaparral - 10.3->10.0/9.7
This thing is worse than the Strela after that tank got photocontrast. No way it should be higher.

Ariete PSO - 11.3->11.0
It has non of the “benefits” that the other Arietes have with the WAR kit or better engine. All Arietes deserve a BR decrease, but imo this one deserves it the most.

Leclerc SXXI, AZUR - add a new round
Just like the Abramses these have been powercrept by the 2A7V and 122s. Giving these 2 new rounds would also differentiate them from the previous leclercs.

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I still don’t know how they haven’t moved Su-22M3 down yet, that thing at 10.7 is really trashy.

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seriously this is a good humour. almost all german jets that equipped with flares has same or even higher number of countermeasures (save for mig 23M)

FFS MOVE wyvern S4 TO 4.7 OK? or remove it’s air spawn. this thing has overwhelming performance. biased top speed, biased acceleration, biased weaponry. this thing should go to 5.3.

OTOMATIC is still sitting at 11.3…

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How can you possible justify moving the T20 to 6.3? It started life at 4.7! Even with all the Road Map changes, it should be 6.0 max. APCR certainly doesn’t justify the move; T20 should have had that ammo option (and SMOKE rounds) from the very beginning.

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T20 should get the APCR without BR changes because it should have this ammo when it go to BR 6.0 and the APCR can’t pen typical targets like jagdpanther or turret frontal armor of tigerII(H)
Char 25t and AMX50(TO90/930) also shouldn’t go 8.0,No STAB/HEAT with 200mm pen only and they have to face APFSDS/thermal/laser rangefinder and composite armor when they get a uptier

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Good first step to increase the rate of fire for the Merkavas. But they are still missing competitive armor at their br

Can anyone explain to me why the F15s are staying on 12.3???

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It never got it… if they added it, it would be unrealistic

Sad to see the SPAA of GRB BR4x in France gone…

What are you on about?
The gripen also gets 6 missile harpoints. Not just the SMT has 6 missiles idiot

The 3½t Truck (SAM-3) deserves to be at 11.7+. It has no place at 10.7

The Char25T at 8.0!!! It’s insanity ! I spaded that tank and let me tell you that even at 7.7 when you get yourself in a 8.7 uptier you would absolutly get your ass wooped ! To anyone that did not play that tank let me describe it to you : It has NO armor and can be .50Cal to the sides and the top , It has good mobility (IN A 7.7 MATCH!) but not good acceleration , It has ONLY APHE & HE , The AP has great post pen damage but ONLY IF YOU CAN PEN ! And with 209mm point blank pen at this BR you are going to run into two problems : Either you will not be able to pen the enemy tank or you will pen it if it’s a light tank but LT at 8.3/8.7/9.0 will not fuse your AP most of the times resulting in little to no damage , It has no Stabilizer/Thermal/RangeFinder(Not even talking about a laser one not EVEN a regular one)/and has poor Depression & Elevation making it a bad tank to put in a good position on the battlefield , At 8.7 and even at some 8.3s matches it was facing tanks with all the aforementioned goodies (not even talking about the tanks that have APFSDS & Composite Armor at those BRs) , But now it will also face 9.0 Tanks Just because the only thing saving this tank is it’s 4s reload that takes forever to replenish once you run out? (Btw this tank is very easy to ammorack due to that autoloader and the fact that it has no armor you just either shoot front hull to the right and kill all the crew or shoot straight in the upper middle either from the front the sides or the back and you will be sure to ammorack) , So really 9.0??.. PURE INSANITY!! , The Good BR for this tank should be 7.3 . (Good thing that the AMX M4 will be staying at 6.7 i think it’s the perfect BR for it)

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F-15s staying LMAO
one of the best jets not going up simply because “muh statistics” What a joke

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Mostly I agree with everything you have said, but the main problem that the game is like this is because of the absurd damage model that the game has, it is something that should be radically modified making the APHE do more correct damage , spalling forward instead of creating a sphere of death, the damage cone being larger depending on the explosive charge inside the bullet, also the Full AP should have a much more consistent damage, with a slightly lower damage to the APHE (around 10% less) and depending on the damage on the energy and size of the bullet to do more or less damage, the tungsten carbide APCR and APDS should do damage equivalent to the APHE, varying the damage Due to the size of the bullet and energy after penetrating, the tungsten alloy APDS are the same as the previous ones but doing a little less spalling, the HEAT and HEAT-FS and missiles would have damage depending on the excess penetration after passing the armor. So if there is 100mm of penetration left over it would cause great damage inside the tank, if there is 50mm left over it would be low damage and if there is 200mm or more left over it would be enormous damage inside the tank, being a cone-shaped damage, the HE In principle they are fine, the HESH would need a little more damage, giving them that the fragments that come off will bounce a little inside the tank. All this would be the minimum necessary to be able to make a correct Br, and to all this I would add that when receiving a penetration the surviving crew members would have one or two seconds of shock (an ability could be added to shorten that time), and that the large caliber HE and HESH could generate that shock without penetrating.

Hm, is 2S25M is really 3BM60/59 capable? I heard the best shell it can use is 3BM46.

Why not just improve its gun handling (“at least” 3.5d/s means higher figures are possible, not your strange decision to limit to 3.5d/s as a max value)? Or add leaning like BMP-3/BMD-4 has?

So long as you’re fine with the idea of the earthquake BR changes that would follow, such as APHE vehicles dropping in BR and solid shot vehicles going up in BR…

I personally wish they would make other ammo more lethal rather than APHE being less lethal, purely for reasons of gameplay.

F-5E at 10.7? are you serious gaijin

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American pilots dragging all F-15 statistics down. And like with the P51 with cannons they tried to increase the British one and because people complained, they increased both.

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