BAe Sea Harrier - Technical data and discussion

So. As they ONLY balance via player stats. Anyone wnat to join me in Sim in the Sea Harrier FRS1 (SQV) and everytime we see a Mig-23MLD we just let them kill us. FRS1s stats go down. Mig-23MLD stats go up and in 3 months time. Maybe they’ll fix their mistake?

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If you want to know how useless F4s are against MiG 23s watch Donutwithmustache’s video on the MiG 23 and F4:
https://www.youtube.com/@DonutWithMustache
here’s a channel link

Realism only suits sometimes…I know they adjusted the FM of the 23, I haven’t seen much of them to me it still has the R-24 which is a free kill at the BR bracket and 4 R60M (MK) are one of the few all aspect missiles at that BR mounted to a supersonic platform.

From what I know. The Mig-23 can still turn fight most things, but now you have to manually control the wing sweep rather than leaving it in auto. So it just takes more skill to fly but still good enough. Can easily beat an FGR2 in a turn fight for example (especially as the Mig-23MLD has the advantage of all-aspects seekers)

and yes R-24Rs are still the best SARH at that BR

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FGR-2 is a bus compared to the 23. That’s before you add the gun pod and the 8 missiles.

Yeah, FGR2 could barely fight Mig-23ML. Let alone MLD. Usually only if the soviet pilots were really bad. If encounter one with a brain cell. Good luck. There was reason they were 0.3 higher. Your only advantage was 2x more SARH and a slightly better PD radar. (the FGR2 is slower than the MLD)

Oh yes the FGR-2 fabled huge high trust low altitude engines and you cannot outrun anyone.
I cant bring myself to play the FGR-2 again…It was too much pain for too long

Yeah. i basically only play it during events because it farms botters easily. But yeah. Its such a boring and low powered aircraft these days. its not fun. Too many QoL features in other aircraft. Just wish the Sea Harrier had basic things ,like a usable HUD

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Which F-104 and what RWR? some of them can’t detect the J band of the S-23.

F104s, it kept happening which i thought was strang. It sometimes picks up but other times its completely silent while not even in the rwr dead zones… Its not game breaking as i can see the diamond coming half the time so i have a chance to notch but its just a little annoying not knowing if its an r24r or t coming towards you.

In Sim, they made it so that that doesnt matter

Does anyone know if they ever mounted SARH missiles to the fa2 or its prototypes? I just think having a sea harrier with skyflashes at like 11.7-12.0 would make for an incredibly fun jet to fly. I love bvr combat but what britain gets isnt at “fun” brs, for me at least. I love my tornado but sometimes i dont want to be able to face 13.0 (and now 12.7 due to the f16s…).

Already tried looking and nothing but a baron wasteland

Its a real shame we dont have anything with decent bvr capabilities at a br lower than 11.7… i would give anything for a skyflash armed harrier… Although i really doubt they wouldnt have at least tested the skyflash if the radar could guide it, Its what test pilots are for. Testing the strange and stupid ideas of the ground crew just in case they have any bright ideas.

This annoys me. The whole point of Sim is so you don’t indulge in the horse that you get in RB. (Because, respectfully to RB, it isn’t that realistic at all. I mean, hell, you get big red text telling you where the enemy is.)

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Yep. Soviets being unhappy about the quality of SPO-10 in ASB. so of course, gaijin fixed it for them. But heaven forbid Pantsir being detectable by everyone in GRB.

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what, lo and behold the legendarily garbage Russian RWR was garbage?

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I hate to admit how many games it took for me to realise it coudlnt detect pd radars… i kept blowing up out of the sky to some random guy in my lazur while flying with my buddy in his mig 23 and thought they were just in my rwr dead zones…

I cant remember what war it was but didnt the americans blow so many planes out the sky with bvr that they genuinely thought it was an issue with thier own planes as they couldn’t detect them? anyone remember what conflict it was as i had their experience.

probably desert storm

The Blue Fox and Blue Vixen didn’t have a CW illuminator, but I’ve seen a place where they said the prototype Blue Vixen had a CW and I’ve tried to find it again for more info but… I doubt it’s true