BAe Sea Harrier - Technical data and discussion

Functionally not alot. CCRP in game permits lofting attacks but also lay down attacks. Which SHar isn’t doing.

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However CCRP can’t tell you when to start pulling up for lofting to work.

Yeah, you’ll miss alot using CCRP for lofting. But it kinda works.

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But what would stop a SHar pilot IRL from just dropping a bomb in level flight using the LOFT instead of lofting attacks?

Just feels like splitting hairs

Yep… Still waiting on all the necessary symbology for the Tonka too

Well go bother people in the Tornado thread.

Cough cough

Panavia Tornado (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion - #5708 by Morvran

Shar can manual or auto loft, but CCRP is for lay down attacks not lofting.

Per the Tornado manual, explicitly mentions lay down attacks;

So its doing CCRP, CCIP and Lofting.

Shar is doing CCIP and Lofting.

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So Shar needs to have CCRP removed?

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Should do yes, I’ll do a report for it.

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Is that FRS.1 or FA.2?

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FA.2 at least, I don’t have a weapons manual for FRS.1 and the FAA museum is being cagey with its release so can’t say for certain.

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Just spend the 1 billion £ they were asking for duh.

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Im still not understanding what the difference is in an entirely in-game setting.

In the SHar you can designate a target, it will project a target on the HUD and automatically release bombs at the right time to hit said target.

If they removed CCRP and then added Lofting instead, what would be different? How would it function differently.? That is what I dont understand

You’d be required to loft for release in a pitch up attack. In level release you’d be doing CCIP.

Couple KM for the target pitch up for release for a lofting attack.

Flying level at 80m you’d be CCIP only.

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But weren’t they doing level drops on Port Stanley airfield using the time-to-drop symbology?

Isnt that an indicator that at least in manual, the SHar was able to provide accurate release information without being in a loft profile?

I understand what its meant to do IRL, but war thunder is war thunder, with many many missing features and generally non-standard tactics

Though in the absence of LOFT being modeled… CCRP just feels like a reasonable compromise/placeholder for now. Especially given how little interest the devs seem to have for anything related to dropping bombs

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I’d have expected release point, lay down attack or any number of things that point to CCRP ( and specifically CCRP).

Lofting isn’t CCRP even when its automatic. As in game CCRP is used for lay down attacks only and is largely kinda okay for lofting.

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Even if thats the case, you still won’t find any CCRP symbology in the HUD unit on FA2 at a minimum, so does nothing to help you in sim.

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Even the Harrier II manuals have lay down attacks and CCRP explicitly mentioned.
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I dont mind about the FA2 that much, its very very unlikely to get into a position to drop the 3 bombs onto a target, but the FRS1’s much lower BR and ability to carry 5 makes it a reasonable base bomber.

But we could still get the LOFT symbology for the FRS1, just designate the target like normal, it shows a cross over the target, you have the time to target in the corner. job done. Basically the Buc’s CCRP Symbology.

If/when they ever update CCRP, it can be converted from the catch-all CCRP into something more specific, but given we still have the mess which is bomb series & Ripple quantities… Im not holding my breath that would be anytime soon

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Is CCIP not an option?