BAe Harrier II (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

Naturally, British bias and all that.

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A video of the target not being there and then appearing as you get closer. Coupled with some ingame screenshots and a CLOG file.

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Anyone able to check on the dev server if in-cockpit RWR has been updated to the new system? Thanks in advance

Also the name is so big in cockpit on the hud rwr for some reason.

Ah, thank you, so theyve not forgotten SB this time round then. Though still looks WIP

I don’t know if this has been posted yet but I find it interesting atleast

I guess it’s strange that the UK Harriers never used the AGM-122 (Side-ARM), then it would literally have an answer for every situation.

ALARM underwent fitment testing unsure if one was ever fired.

I know, but the SideARM would replace a Sidewinder, so could preferentially be fitted on the outriggers and so not take up a high capacity underwing station, leaving them free for other stores.

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if you go anti radiation , you go anti radiation , it is not like IRL 2 planes are expected to destroy 4 AA systems and then blow up 8 trenches/ tanks

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The whole point of the outriggers being added to British Harriers over AV-8B was that they would have an AAM in all situations. It was seen as an absolute necessity after the Falklands, for non-fighter aircraft to have a means of self-defence, or to be able to attack enemy reconnaissance patrols.
Same doctrinal decision resulted in over-wing pylons getting added to Jaguar so it could still carry sidewinders when the previous AAM pylons were repurposed for jamming and countermeasures, and why we ended up doing crazy stuff like sticking sidewinders on Nimrod and Vulcan

The notion of sticking an AGM on them runs counter to their purpose, and puts you back in a situation where the jet is lacking AAM.

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To be fair there are quite a few photos of loadouts like this on the Tornado GR.4 (carrying two ALARMs alongside other stores so it can self-suppress anti-aircraft sites during the mission):

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Brimstone but still rocking TIALD, classic RAF.

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The Brimstones are the original MMW-only missiles so probably pre-2007: pre-Dual Mode Brimstone, pre-Litening etc.

Which begs the question that if the GR.9 is to get Brimstone, would it only get the MMW seeker variant?
Since that’s the only version that existed when there was still a plan to integrate it on Harrier, the only variant ever carried in flight by Harrier, and the fact it hadn’t been certified for Dual Mode Brimstone (or the later Brimstone 2) was a big factor in why it was retired early instead of Tornado which had.

You mean sniper not litening we didn’t use litening pod iirc

The Harrier GR.9 was given emergency operational clearance to use basic MMW Brimstone. It could theoretically have used Dual Mode Brimstone but was not cleared to do so.

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He’s talking about the Tornado GR.4, which did use Litening III

Now that RWR gives us more info, will these


light up for us cockpit enjoyers?

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they did not add MAW ?