BAe Harrier II (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

engine wise but everything else seems fine

Yeah. In every other respect thought its underperforming

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ofc, it’s a Harrier

Is the engine supposed to be the same one as in the magazine i linked

Yeah, T-10s only had the Mk105 engine (same engine as the Gr7 does in-game)

T-12As had the Mk107 engine (what the T-10 currently has and what all the AV-8Bs have)

Gr7 and Gr9 (and T-12) did get the Mk107 too and is denoted by the added “A”. Which is why we’d want the GR9A eventually.

Best guess. Gaijin gave it the Mk107 so it would perform as closely as possible to the AV-8B(NA). So it either needs the Mk105 engine or be renamed the T12A

Yeah i have no info on the harriers so i have no idea in the specifics of whats wrong. Just figured id post something i came across while searching for Danish Drakens

I’ll take this over here.

Super heavy air superiority. I reckon maybe 4+4 might have been possible for the Sea Harrier FA3.

but Id doubt AMRAAM ever fitted ot the inner most pylon.

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You play Sea Power? I’m making a mod on how most speculate it would have done operations but at least we can be sure that it would have a thousand CMs from all the BOL rails

I dont. And much like the GR7/9 having a max loadout of 6x AAMs but only 4x BOL. I doubt the FA3 would have gotten any additional BOL mountings. Might have still gotten the TERMA though

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The later FA.3 definitely would have gotten TERMA as that was added to the GR.9 about when they started considering the FA.3

Why? it was only fit to GR4 and GR9… attack aircraft.

It would have become the EFT of the RN, the Royal Navy’s GR.7/9s were going to be upgraded and so they would still need a fleet striker, so the FA.3 would have cover that as well but not important. Point is the FA.3 would have been very potent if the people ruling had been aborted instead of being birthed

I mean the project went nowhere so making any predictions on what it might have been is fairly pointless. The Shar replacement was F-35B.

More like “replacement” as the F35Bs the RA/RN has are not enough for both, especially as the biggest force multiplier, the FGR.4 is facing possible forced retirement. Imo, they should have upgraded some GR.9s with Blue Fox, and upgraded them again in 2023 with Captor and Meteor so to still have a naval air force and the RAF just done their own thing

Since when?

They are in the process of upgrading them to keep them in service well into 2040. By which point, theyd probably be replaced by the Tempest

https://www.raf.mod.uk/news/articles/2-35-billion-typhoon-upgrade-sustains-1300-uk-jobs/

Must have misread/fell for something, but why so much into Tempest though? The British military needs some of those funds elsewhere, even if there is a bit of delay on the Tempest, it will mean that the UK won’t cease to exist

Such as?

AJAX integration, more F35s, properly upgrading of Typhoon, getting air tankers, getting an actual AWACS, giving Challenger 3 more parts for maintenance when they run out in a decade or two. Paying the excessive amount of people in most branches, paying people properly, overhaul of the procurement system, and that is only the stuff I can think of or know of.

Is happening?

No? Why buy Fail-35s when we can invest in Tempest?

How are we not? ECRS Mk2, Possibly AMK, Spear-3/EW/Glide, METEOR-MR. etc etc

True

Eh… Not sure if we really need those tbh, but dont we have some?

Perhaps, but the project looks to be coming along very well. Was expecting at least one major issue that would delay it 10 years. Not happened yet.

Never gunna happen :D

So I still dont really see what cutting Tempest funding would really acheive, other than piss the Japanese off.

What I’m saying is that some funding is taken away and diverted and have a slightly longer dev time, 2040 is still very far and Britain, even Japan might not even exist anymore at that point but no point arguing as there is an easy supply of funds waiting in pointless people like the Old Guard or all the admirals that don’t even have ships