I didnt ask u
So stop trying to reference them? They are not the norm.
You look at videos from 2 or 3 planes,B17s in WW2 suffered a 68% casulty rate…those 2 or 3 is NOT THE NORM
there is a lot of documentation about how bombers took damage though, on paper and photographs. right now it’s just your word against all that
most of the casualties were from slowly losing fuel, oil or burning after a long period of time making it so they could not make it back. war thunder does not have matches long enough to experience most of that.
it really seems people are looking for the bombers to simply explode when they shoot them. realistically you have to change your playstyle and aim for the cockpit to hit the pilot, instead of just shooting wherever. or, like real life, aim for engines, control surfaces etc. after MULTIPLE passes the damage is likely enough to make them fall out of the sky eventually. not likely to instantly fall apart. gaijin has given you people unrealistic expectations about what “destroyed” looks like. tanks should most of the time look exactly how they did with a fully functioning crew, but immobile and with a hole somewhere and a dead crew inside. bombers fit this as well…
I would like to also point out how your statement
is pretty funny considering that is basically what bombers were designed for and known to be
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Why in the hell did they spend money to Develop P51, because Bombers were getting destroyed, that is Reality…this is not Reality
You want to play a historical game, yes, Maybe one click from a German cannon or any other country shouldnt destroy a bomber, but yet 1000 rounds should. But this update that makes freaking Bombers into Transformers from another planet LOL…that Prolongs Matches,slows down your Silver Lion produce and research as you chase some Noob pilot in a bomber that doesnt fly well in the first place…What are Fighter Airplanes for?..LOL to destroy other fighers and Bombers…ridiculous…You players that fly bombers. More power to you because that is what you like…but dont sit there and say, a bomber has a chance against a Figher Plane…thats why we captured Iwo Jima…because bombers didnt have a chance against a Fighter Plane…But hey, you tank players now are where the money comes from…enjoy it…better PC will go to DCS…because this game is preying on young, naive Prem players now
Thats the HARD TRUTH, enjoy your VIDEO GAME…because it is now, not historically correct, GUARANTEED
Bombers, traditionally, need to be escorted, because they are vulnerable, flying death traps
every comment you post makes me feel more and more like you are simply aiming center mass instead of actually putting rounds in engines, control surfaces and specific crew compartments. also not sure who you are trying to replying to
and as I said earlier, loss of fuel, oil and burning slowly are what caused them to be considered casualties, as they couldn’t return back to base. in war thunder, you are only seeing the immediate effects, which are just them on fire and a few leaks, maybe overheating engines. if you were to wait 10 minutes to an hour, they would eventually not have anything keeping them in the air.
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- You’re not referencing any of it
- All sources point to in game damage being ridiculously undertuned, ie bombers are way too strong rn
- This is a video game
- Bombers need to be balanced within that video game
You have two options here. Option #1, you zip it and stop talking about realism and then you can say "just aim for the pilot, or Option #2, you care about realism and you can zip it about having to pilot snipe BOMBERS being “realistic”. You can pick but you MUST pick one of these two options. :)
Furthermore, gaijin made it where fires start at about 5%-15% of the rate they used to on bombers so fires are NOT A VALID OPTION!
Gaijin will not miss me, despite all the planes I have accumulated…but they will love all the young, not financially educated people they sell all their Premium Packs too…I never bought a Prem Plane until I was about a Level 95…just because I liked the plane, didnt need to grind anymore, but hey you get a really young person who cant succeed just because of Experience and they like this game…why not spend $80 to get a better plane? or tank,when it wasnt money at all? Just a lack of inexperience
They weren’t designed for nor known for this btw, don’t fall for myths
They are not the Norm?..That is REALITY,not a video game, that is what air rb is supposed to be REALITY…not some video game you play on ps4. How could I not reference REALITY?
REALITY, the key word here.
Stop replying to the wrong person? 3 times now
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This keeps sounding more and more like OP prefered onetapping bombers with 7.62mms and is mad it takes skill to fight a bomber, even tho for sometime to warrant its BR it needs to be competitive at said BR. Sure they’re more than a bit overtuned but if we make the survivability scale with size of the plane and give said DM to everything then we’re good
How many 20mm HE shells should a bomber tail take before it becomes unusable?
That’s a terrible idea. Just revert bomber buff by 50% and be done with it
Making the HP scale with size is not a bad idea. It makes lightweight aircraft lighter and heavier aircraft sturdier. Also completely removes the idea of “but XYZ aircraft has roots to ABC bomber so it should get buff” if they all get the buff. Nerf large bombers by 25-40% then scale HP based on size using that as a baseline.
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Yes it is. It has no basis in reality and doesn’t do good things for gameplay either.
Just remove 50% of the buff bombers got and everything ends up fine
Just saying “bombers” is extremely vague. Especially considering not all bombers got the buff or the unfair nature of it. Scaling HP based on how big it is and what it’s made of is a logical decision.
Not really? It’s the aircraft they changed.
Ok so change the ones that didnt to use the new 50% nerfed DM?
No. No basis in reality and would cause direct game issues
Dude you do realize by nerfing the largest ones by 40% that means nothing is going to be tanking more than the current borked models? Anyways with you suggestion define what exactly should get the bomber buff and what shouldn’t. Bf110 is bigger than Su-8. Should it get one? How about the minuscule HP12? Should that eat as much as a B-29?