dude, there are three european countries flying a eurofighter that doesnt even is operational
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Yea this was already seen like a year ago or something, its nothing new
https://x.com/GaijinEnt/status/1916577746375070147?s=20 here Is gaijin response
Besides, what does a sticker on the side of a truck have to do with the flanker’s performance?
Spread your theories elsewhere
So what?
They use SPICE-250 and Brimstone, but for “some reason” USA did not receive JAGM-F and GBU-53.
Should I remind you about tracking targets on M1A2 and 2A7, which Gaijin allegedly did not find information about?
Sure they pubicly claim that. But cmon this is a military parade. I know the US would be extremely cautious on company representations. If this was a prank by a russian service member though that would just be really funny haha
Im clearly talking about the differences between real data results from live WT vs inacurate statshark data. Statshark is trying to simulate what happens in game, not in real life.
You missed the point. That is me saying that the su27sm has similar STR to the gripen. You keep distorting my words.
I was just pointing that. Which means that the gripen high speed curves are mostly accurate. But not for the su27sm.
Why are you trying so hard to make what I posted sound like nonsense? I literally posted videos, do you have some kind of investment in pushing wrong information about these FMs for some reason?
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Sure and by doing that you can also see how the plane in game should more or less behave compared to it’s irl counterpart
Which barely matters when the flanker Will still lose in most scenarios, you also seems to ignore the gripen itself overperforming in STR
Sounds like more cope rather than nonsense tbh
You’re obsessing over a singular thing while ignoring many others
as i said, if u think Its so wrong feel free to bug report it
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It should be roughly correct
should be yes
You keep taking my points out of context…
I never said the flanker is a better dogfighter than the gripen.
I said the 27SM has similar STR as the gripen across most speeds (a bit higher at high speeds)
You kept saying the flanker has lower STRs while looking at inaccurate StatShark turn graphs. I just proved that wrong with some videos to make my point.
I can’t talk about how these jets perform IRL, but it does feel weird the levels of energy retention they have in game when comparing to much lighter jets that are known for their sustained high G maneuver capabilities.
Maybe flankers have too little drag, which would also explain their overperforming top speed and high speed STR, if engine thrust is correct. Increasing drag would allow them to keep good energy retention at slow speeds while correcting it at high speeds.
If gaijin wants to keep them like this, fine, just balance them accordingly. Especially the 13.0 and 13.3 flankers, which are clearly undertiered when compared to their competition at the same BR, they were already too strong with their initial poor FM’s.
Also:
They mega buffed the Flankers but cant fix the Abrams LFP…
wanna test it? I got f-16 blk 10, 15, 20 and all flankers other than the first j-11 spaded
yes hop in
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invited ya
I think you have your chat disabled or some bug. Can you see in-game messages?
that went about as I expected
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Yeah so, overall, the su-27 has the upper hand over the F-16s, even the block10. A ratefight is a easy win for the flanker, and they are fairly matched in 1C, except in vertical 1C where the F-16 is better. So if the flanker plays to its strenghts its essencially a guaranteed win.
We switched planes and tested a bunch of others, so it’s not a difference in skill. I’m inclined to say the flanker is better than the F-16 in a gunfight, might be almost on par with the gripen.
This also shows that Statshark turn graphs are wrong, mainly for the su-27, it’s mostly correct for the F-16 block10 for example.
What makes you think that the Statshark turn rate graphs are incorrect?
The fact that it overestimates/underestimates what planes actually do in-game depending on speeds. Some have curves that closely match, some don’t, some do partially match.
Since it’s inconsistent we can’t rely heavily on it to compare different jets. You can however, use it to compare different variants within the same platform, roughly speaking, to get a reference between them, but the actual values might be wrong for some, or all speeds.
In what areas that it over estimate or underestimate? What is your example?
I’m asking because this is going somewhere. Trust.
I never thought I would hear this sentence in my life
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