Fast, great missiles, great energy retention, great low speed turning, great guns, and flares.
Theres not a whole lot of planes that can outfly the Hunter F.58, and the Aim-9Ns are just a slap in the face to the already suffering F-104.
Jets with good energy retention are just more forgiving for beginners, while also being more versatile in playstyle.
???
Usable yes, but great? Several planes at 9.7 have same or comparable missiles.
you must be flying some exclusive hunter then.
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The Hunter F58?
Well… Decent for a subsonic jet, but far slower than a lot of jets at 10.0. The Hunters, even the 207 hunters, actually accelerate quite slowly, especially compared to the Harriers. and the Harriers actually probably reach a higher top speed. At least when messing around with the F6 on the dev server, I was averaging around M0.86 ish. Harrier will easily hit 0.92
Actually, fairly average, if not maybe slightly below average.
Its okay, but you’ve got to watch how you are turning because it can and will bleed speed fast.
Im sorry what?
Hunters are pigs at low speed. In fact my go to advice for them is to never ever go slow. You are no match to most aircraft.
30mm ADENs. On the Hunter they are fine, (better position and 4 instead of the usual 2) but they are still 30mm ADENs. So I would not class them as “great guns”.
Sure… which is unique for the Hunters… But at 9.7 you have the Harriers with 4x Flare the count. So…
They are Aim-9Ps, not Aim-9Ns
The what?
To describe the Hunter F58 as “fast” in the same comment you say the F-104 is suffering is just hilarious
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You wait until Gaijin added Hunter F.74 from RSAF with 4 AIM-9G. now that’s OP.
We really need some more late Hunter Variants.
The RAF ones probably wouldnt be that great as many became trainers (still cool to get, but not the best)
But the Omani, Singaporean and Chillean Hunters would be a lot of fun to see
Ill admit I would have a good laugh if it gets added to Japan TT.
Oh god the Drama :D
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UK, home of the third best Hunter variant.
Aren’t there like a bazillion other F-5 threads
Sounds about right. Though with the new SRAAMs…
Nom nom nom
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The German one was OP at 9.7, but now that it’s 10.0 its a fine aircraft. It’s good, but clearly worse than every other 10.3 plane.
MB, there’s too many slightly different Aim-9Js to keep track of. Certainly doesn’t help that Germany gave their own names to their imported missiles.
Spoiler
Wait, should a Swiss plane have German designations?
I can’t think of a single non-afterburning plane that outruns it. Not to mention, max speed isn’t all that matters. Energy retention contributes a ton aswell.
It has undodgable missiles that will see plenty of flareless planes. That’s pretty good.
Not from my experience. I typically avoid dogfighting, however if there’s only a few enemies left, or an enemy is very far from his team, I feel very confident in my Hunter’s turning ability.
Their damage is great, and their spread makes them extremely deadly in a head-on. The only downside is low muzzle velocity which isn’t the worst downside in the world.
There lots of flareless planes and undodgable missiles around that BR, and Harriers fly like doodoo.
Having more flares doesn’t matter much when you already have enough.
You can’t seriously believe that the F-104 isn’t one of the worst planes in Warthunder.
Before the nerf, sure it was an extremely annoying gimmick to fight, but now it is absolute worthless crap.
The hunters arent op (most of them) If its got countermeasures is a bit undiertiered in comparison to the rest.
the F5 is blatantly overpowered for the 11.0 region, too little drag and too tight turns while also being too cold to lock. meanwhile it fights harriers and the flying dumpster that is the phantoms.
F-5 yes, Hunter, no.
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CBA to list all nations but both the Harrier and Buc S2 leave the Hunter F6 (99.99% the same FM as the Hunter F58) in their dust within the British TT and Im sure those arent the only ones.
Aim-9Ps are okay, but they arent gunna be even close to the SRAAMs coming next major on the Hunter F6, Nor would I consider them much better than the Aim-9Gs found on most of the Harriers at 9.7. Good sure, but nothing special either,
Compared to say the guns on the F-5s. They are much harder to aim>
Sure, but singling out the Hunter F58 as being special for having CMs at 10.0 is a bit wierd.
The F-104S ASA at 12.0, sure. but the 9.3 ones that are a total menace and probably should be much higher than 9.3… No
If we exclude things like A-10s and SU-25, non-afterburning jets are becoming less common at 9.7, moreso at 10.0. I can think of only early harriers but these outaccelerate Hunter by significant margin and for top speed theres difference of like 18km/h in favor of hunter.
Id have to argue that they have different use cases. The sidewinder is the “no you are not extending to try and run away missile” when the SRAAM is the “i can beat you in the dogfight but i dont wish to waste your time”
At least thats how i use 9E on the FGA9
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True, though with the new SRAAMs… They’ll have more range than the Aim-9Es do. Never used Aim-9Ps, but I cant imagine they are far off?
Though also not necessarily special to the Hunter F58. With both Magic 1s on the supersonic Mirages at 10.0 and Aim-9Gs on the Harriers at 9.7 (and even the Jag)
Theyre just reskined Js. So double the peak G pull of E.
If you played the Harrier GR.3 which I assume you did, they roughly the same but with less range.