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Well… If he grinds modification while he has nothing but only two AIM-120s as stock…
As long as playing top ranks without [chaff, new booster, and G-Suit] is annoying as hell, Maybe I won’t bother him.
I felt a dire need for bombing base too when I tried to unlock AIM-120 when I had only two AIM-9L as stock missiles on my Tornado F.3 Late on 13.3 for a forced fight against F-15C. :/
(Of course Tornado ADV can’t because it has no A2G payload in-game.)
But if he bombed bases while licking ground even though he spaded the plane…
Erm… Uh…
:|
It has an incredible HUD/HMD for Base bombing in ASB :P
(though I normally just run PW4s on the spare pylons)
Yeah, I did a good chunk of the Typhoon stock grind base bombing.
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Yeah, I usually dislike Fighter Jets stealing bases with napalms from Bombers or Attackers for nothing but a better reward (I know it is selfish. that is why I admit.)
Especially when they let attackers struggle futilely and die in vain against enemy fighters.
(I meant, Excluding the ‘fake fighters’ like Milan or MiG-27. They are suited lot much more to Attacker.)
But, As long as the stock grind of War Thunder is brutal and greedy as f***
I don’t dislike every fighter jet bombing base.
Because the stock grind is brutal, and I am not rich enough to pay them for skipping their every stock with GE.
it usually makes stock grind a lot much shorter, and makes the plane stronger at a faster rate
Then they usually can make their full effort on A2A faster than struggling to grind on A2A only.
IMO, it is perfectly fine to bomb base when they need to grind modification fast from stock junks.
Just… OP’s original claim felt like a quite double standard.
It’s very slow against others because of lack of napalm bombs and bad engine/airframe.
I had encounterd this scenario wiht a mig-21s player today. He and I were bombing, but he was much faster, you can see the picture above.
4 bombs only loadout???
on J-7D??
USE YOUR PL-5B ffs
If you see MiG-21S, then you are on full downtier.
Strike those poor flareless guys with your missiles.
it will give you way, way more rewards than mindless bombing with a 250kg bomb.
J-7D armed with 4 PL-5B/PL-7 on full downtier is shamelessly overpowered plane
I am really sorry, but the whole discussion just feels meaningless after I saw your screenshot.
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Yeah that is insane. I’ll slap A2G onto any aircraft (usually in ASB). I may ditch a little A2A if given a good reason to (like say a quiet lobby of Air Sim and i’ll run 10x PW4s on the Typhoon, but I’ll still have 2+4 fit of A2A weapons to use)
But running 0 A2A outside of niche aircraft like the Bucs is insane. Even on the Tornado I’ll make full use of the Aim-9s if the oppotunity arises. I’ll happily try dogfight in the GR4
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Yes. that is one of the main reasons why I hate those ‘0 A2A prem bombers’
(MiG-23ML with 16x 100kg before napalm meta can be an example.)
They carry minimum fuel because it is lighter
They don’t carry missiles because it causes extra drag and makes them slower than 'other men from the same tribe"
Full reheating to base, bomb, crash, and leave.
Worthless.
The best effort that they could make was
‘Being extra large chaff for Phoenix or Fakour’ :/
That is why I usually go with extra fuel and AIM-9L while flying my Tornado GR.1
Dogfighting with attacker against fighter is not efficient but that is also a fun part of playing Attack aircraft. Right?
;)
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I have a bad feeling it wasn’t just for spading the vehicle…
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Man I really need to start trying sim out… sounds like a lot of fun
and its these people that probably resulted in aircraft like the F-14 and co being uptiered so much. They were free food
Iirc, after that second clip, I went on to RTB and then get a gun kill. I’ve also had a match in the Tornado Gr1 winning a dogfight vs a Mig-21
Desperately needs some TLC, basically hasnt been updated in years. But its hard to enjoy ARB after playing ASB
People like you is why we can’t have nice stuff.
People like you is why we still have undertier premium vehicle.
It is definitely not entirely gaijin fault on this one , cause people like you clearly feeding the fire
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I haven’t had a game where I didn’t get 4+ kills in a full downtier when flying it lmao. I don’t regret purchasing it in the slightest.
It’s very clearly an 11.0 plane, but gaijins statistics must say otherwise.
Base bombing in it is a travesty.
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A) Yes, Sim EC is THE optimal game mode for ground pounders. Not because of “extra mechanisms”, just because of more space, thus more room to avoid the enemy, and also more targets for everybody to have fun and profit. Simple as that.
B) The PvE topic is a complex one.
Well, actually no, it isn’t, some people just make it more complex than it would be. It’s always trifficult when people start trying to re-interpret actually simple and clear rueles to fit their own preferences…
It basically boils down to this: If you’re flying a bomber/attacker and do your job, without actively engaging anything that moves in the air, that’s not PvE.
“PvE” in the sense that is frowned upon by many (including Gaijin) it becomes when some self-entitled players want to enforce matches where it is forbidden to do PvP, which is clearly agains the rules.
There’s nothing wrong using a attacker in Sim EC to bomb bases repeatedly, and avoid enemy contact. Smart move actually, that’s what one tries to do.
There’s also nothing wrong with bombing and enaging other aircraft, and of course nothing at all wrong to engage enemy aircraft, be that bombers or attackers (or multirole aircraft) or anything basically. Even if they want to be left alone.
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He obviously does.
Wrong, it is about having fun. So he may be way more successful than you.
This is reason why we need cut the base damage reward on 0.2 on fighters what are really ment to be used as fighters and this topic just proved it what is completely busted and giving rewards for actually doing nothing on 11.0 →
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Yeah man, I hate these players who just want to play the game in a way they enjoy with the tools Gaijin gives them. How dare they use bombs on planes that historically carried and used bombs.
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remove bombs from fighter at this point, this thread has convinced me that the average wt player shouldn’t get any a2g ordnance in arb
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