bombs in “F-8E, MiG-23, MiG-21BIS, Kfir Canard (this one’s fine I guess), F-5C, J-7D, F-104G, Mirage F1C” and EFT
may I never have you on my team. respectfully
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The thing is , ML radar even before the nerf is piss ass. This just show us that you didn’t bother to learn or even to try defeat these missiles. You skipped everything and went straight to the easiest way for short term gain. If at 10.7~12.0 you can’t defeat these missile when they are at their lowest. How on earth your teammate gonna expect you to defeat ARAAM or AIM-7M , doesn’t even need to be 27ER in your case
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I never said I couldn’t dodge them. I simply said I’m at a severe disadvantage.
Defeating a pulse missile require a pop of chaff
Defeating a CW missile require notching
That’s all there is to it.
Think about how much more energy you lose defeating a CW seeker vs a pulse one. All that leaves you vulnerable to a third party etc.
But the phase “which is game over for me” suggest other wise. But sure , if you want it that way. But it still doesn’t change the fact that those missile that you listed can be defeated at ease. You still try to base bomb instead of dogfighting in an air supremacy fighter.
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I still fight while bombing/after bombing. Pure bombing would be extremely inefficient for grinding.
Base bombing simply gives better rewards.
I mostly focused on PVP in the M1C. (most of the times bases are taken)
I bombed before fighting in the MiG-21BIS.
The average player gets 0.654 player kills per battle; not offcial data, but pretty believable. While I don’t have a issue with SL, one can imagine the average player with 0.654 KB, with a tech tree jet, struggle to break even SL by the time of unlock of a vehicle; this is before expert crews.
It won’t change much.
If you replace all zombers tomorrow with elite pilots, the win rates would stay more or less the same. It’s just how statistics work.
can’t rely on a zomber when we get left in a 2v2 at the end.
Collectively speaking, the other one player on the enemy team would also likely to be a zomber.
At these brs, that would require loadout locking and just cause people to leave matches. Dont even know how it would affect the mm itself with the amount of base runners.
I would be surpised if they even survived that long.
I see lvl10-20s in high tier premium fighters base rushing or spamming missiles and it makes me want them to lock premiums until the player gets to the rank below it.
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What’s the point of that?
Nobody talked about statistics.
The point is, AirRB is about winning a battle. And YOU with your bombing do NOTHING for it.
It’s only wasting Position and let the rest of the team do the work.
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Its a bit soon for April fools posts.
7 out of 8 jets you mentioned can score plenty of kills with minimal effort and can easily get aces if you learn and play to their strengths.
6 out of 8 are just wasted potential used as fighter/bombers.
Sure destroying bases is consistent RP but you should try learning how to be an effective fighter instead (drop the F104 through), you’ll have more fun, it will decrease the chances of you becoming someone’s RP and you’ll become an asset to your team.
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I don’t see a problem in locking your loadout for the initial takeoff before the game has started, and lock could be lifted for subsequential landings.
Only issue could be queue times, but I believe many would rather wait some more time for a decent match, then get into a cesspool almost instantly.
This might be off-topic, but I am now a bit worrying about
Hatred to ‘base bombing free riders’ can lead into
“We need to kill base bombing rewards or remove base once and for all! For cleaner ARB!” Conclusion.
Yes. Base bombing reward is massive.
Maybe for some planes can do nothing but bombing bases.
Those planes
- can’t fight a2a
- performs way worse to a2g than proper attack aircraft in the same BR.
- only can deliver bombs to the base.
Yes. Faster Fighter jets which snatch the glory from ‘real bombers’ are annoying.
I don’t like F-104C and MiG-21 which are going napalm run when I play Buccaneer,
Or F-4S/MiG-23ML with no missiles but two napalm for [bomb, crash, and leave] farming while playing slower Tornado IDS.
Maybe in the same way as OP’s feeling :/
Still, Nerfing or removing bases isn’t the solution, I guess.
I rather supporting buff the reward of A2A.
“How about setting the negative multiplier to Fighters then?”
Also can’t be a solution. Sadly.
- There are some Attackers which is misled as fighters. Milan or MiG-27 can be an Example.
- and guys like OP will still bomb bases as long as it gives extra reward.
Rebampimg system of ARB would be only a good idea but
We all know that those greedy bastards never do it for free. :/
Just… I am a bit shocked that OP bombed base every plane that he could…
And blame F-4EJ with rockets…
Sounds both confusing and ironic.
…Why are you bombing in any of those??
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Gaijin brought that upon themselves. Of course people are going to feel hatred towards players that contribute nothing towards winning a game and can’t help in any way except be bait.
It makes no sense that bombing a base gives the same or more rewards when it does nothing than drain a hundred (or two???) tickets.
There is a really simply solution for this that also fits with the “realistic” label of ARB.
Make it so that the primary way win the game is to destroy bases. Increase the number of these bases and increase their HP. Make multiple variations on bases where different types of weapons are most effective. Make it so that winning takes a lot of separate bomb runs. The game would last longer as well.
By doing this you give bombers a purpose. However you also make them a target. You can’t have the entire team be bombers. Enemy would just pick them off with fighters. Interception is key to not losing. Controlling airspace makes things easier.
Fighter and bomber players are finally both happy.
Gaijin please fix ARB. It’s not fighter realistic battles but air realistic battles.
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Agreed.
As one of those who likes to play attack aircraft and bombers, This situation is built up by Gaijin’s laziness and greed.
I don’t like the current shitstorm situation of ARB at all.
Well, sadly it seems Gaijin wants a Fighter-realistic battle :/
since the ancient Tu-4 squad steamrolled matches like flying death-star to destroy all bases and airfields
They even don’t plan to add proper cockpits for bombers because it is a ‘waste of resources’
“single working bomber cockpit needs 2-5 times more effort than making a whole single-seat plane with a working cockpit”
:'(
Bombers(with modern interdictors) and Attackers are just jokes to them.
All they want to us is
- watch fighters reach the base faster, take base faster, and snatch all the rewards from bombing the base.
- watching them die worthlessly with their puny rewards
- struggle futilely against enemy fighters with inferior A2A weaponry and follow allied fighter’s fate.
- being nothing but a ‘manned bot’ which gives an extra reward than the normal bot.
in hyperbole, feels like being human prey of a manhunt party.
I disagree with OP’s claim
“I hate F-4EJ with rocket because I can’t bomb with my J-7D” thing
as long as he is also just another fighter who bombs base.
Still, Gaijin is blatantly abhorring and discriminating against bombers and attack aircraft users.
Because caring for us costs extra for new codes and more things, but it is not profitable compared to selling much of premium jets.
Well, I heard Air sim is a much better mode than ARB for playing attackers and bombers thanks to a few extra mechanisms
Still, I saw much of Anti-Air Puritans who hate to see PVE players on Air sim even in this forum :|
It seems
there is ‘No Gamemode for Non-fighters’ in this game.
Remove RP and SL from the game, and I will stop bombing with them.
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Sir, Are you trying to ragebaiting here…?
No, I’m just simply stating the fact that I bomb for RP/SL rewards.
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