AN/TWQ-1 Avenger needed in US

The Stinger is not a modern SAM.
In service: 1989–present.

There’s mig21F13 at 9.3. The craft that cannot hold speed to pull multiple stingers and cannot CAP effectively nor survive properly compared to a 100sp AA lol

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Vehicles are balanced about capability, not DoI.

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So when do you consider a weapon that’s → still being used ← to not be modern? Is the F-22 modern? it’s nearly 30 years old afterall.

Regardless, year of creation isn’t what people are talking about 99% of the time when they say “early/mid/late coldwar”. What they’re talking about is → the capability of the vehicle ← . Concept 3 is still considered a WW2 vehicle by most despite being built in 1980, because it’s built using WW2 technology and has WW2 capabilities.

I can’t believe I just explained the most obvious common sense fact to a forum user.

Exactly why stingers should be 10.0+

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Do you struggle against AIM-9B?

By which fa18 is in service for years.

At 9.3, we have mig21f13 from early 1960s
At 9.0, we have f3h from mid 1950s

The loong gap

Dud doesn’t know the difference between aim9b and 2x4*stinger?

Lmao.

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You struggle to notch a 13G missile.

Buddy, it’s not a radar missile

Dud notches an ir missile?

Oh, mw, play the f13. See how it does in pulling/

Yes?

Ever heard of kinematically defeating a missile?

Dude, you can notch IR missiles too to kinematically defeat them.

Something tells me this guy has never played a BR with missiles.

notching =/= kinematically defeating a missile

Fun fact 1: Notch is about the radar signal. There’s another word for 3-9 lining a missile the energetically way
Fun fact 2: Stinger has 6km range with rocket on all the way. F13 can barely stay supersonic, and will drop more if ur trying to do anything. You will be caught up at 5km even if you run in a straight line, and with a bit of anything out of Straight Level Flight, it will be 4km.

Note the range is for 2secs after passing above the launcher, without considering frontal launches and dodging

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You perform almost exactly same manuever.

Sounds like skill issue.

Notching the missile is kinematically defeating it but not every kinematic defeat is notch, no?

Must be skill issue not to be able to race Rafale with Mig21f13 xDDD

Id say trying to outrun a missile in straight line with slow plane is exclusively problem of pilot.