Why the AN/TWQ-1 Avenger should be added to the U.S. tech tree in War Thunder
The U.S. still lacks the AN/TWQ-1 Avenger in War Thunder, even though it’s one of the most widely used short-range air defense systems in the American arsenal. Meanwhile, Japan already has a similar system — the Type 93 — despite the Avenger being the original concept.
🔹 Why the Avenger is a good fit for War Thunder:
- Actively used by the U.S. military since the late 1980s.
- Deployed in Iraq, Afghanistan, and for homeland air defense.
- Equipped with:
- 8 × FIM-92 Stinger missiles.
- 1 × 12.7 mm M2 Browning HMG.
- Uses electro-optical sights and a thermal camera (depending on variant).
- Some variants have a simple tracking radar.
🔹 Balance and BR:
- Without radar and using early Stingers: BR 9.0–9.3.
- With thermal optics and newer Stingers: BR 9.7–10.0.
- Fits perfectly as a lead-in to the IM-SHORAD vehicle.
🔹 Possible implementation:
Variant |
Features |
Estimated BR |
Basic Avenger |
Optical/IR tracking only, older Stingers |
9.0–9.3 |
Thermal optics variant |
Improved situational awareness |
9.7–10.0 |
Radar-equipped prototype |
Experimental or event vehicle |
10.0+ |
We do not need more stingers ruining 9.0-10.0
No, we need humvee AA in US. especially since it’s USMC
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I fully agree that Warthunder needs more Humvees, but something Warthunder doesn’t need, is more stingers at 9.0-10.0
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By the way, why haven’t Gaijin introduced the Humvee series yet? Maybe there are problems with the AM General License?
They don’t fit very well in game according to them…this is true for many versions but not stuff like the Avenger
9.3 to 9.7 is perfect BR for stingers
No, stingers should not being facing early-coldwar and WW2 aircraft. Stingers should be 10.0 minimum.
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+1 but add at least 0.3+ BR
We already have equipment from the middle of the Cold War on 8.0, and from the Gulf War and Afghanistan on 9.0.
maybe with starstreak for example?
That’s like saying the Abrams should be 4.3 cause it was made in the same year as the Concept 3. Just because there’s a few mid-late coldwar vehicles at 8.0 doesn’t mean we need modern SAMs at 8.0.
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The Stinger is not a modern SAM.
In service: 1989–present.
There’s mig21F13 at 9.3. The craft that cannot hold speed to pull multiple stingers and cannot CAP effectively nor survive properly compared to a 100sp AA lol
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Vehicles are balanced about capability, not DoI.
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So when do you consider a weapon that’s → still being used ← to not be modern? Is the F-22 modern? it’s nearly 30 years old afterall.
Regardless, year of creation isn’t what people are talking about 99% of the time when they say “early/mid/late coldwar”. What they’re talking about is → the capability of the vehicle ← . Concept 3 is still considered a WW2 vehicle by most despite being built in 1980, because it’s built using WW2 technology and has WW2 capabilities.
I can’t believe I just explained the most obvious common sense fact to a forum user.
Exactly why stingers should be 10.0+
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Do you struggle against AIM-9B?
By which fa18 is in service for years.
At 9.3, we have mig21f13 from early 1960s
At 9.0, we have f3h from mid 1950s
The loong gap
Dud doesn’t know the difference between aim9b and 2x4*stinger?