Insert inaccurate graph I didn’t think about hard enough here
air sim? its not good as it struggles to turn because it can easily flatspin at low speeds for some reason.
sim is unplayable for it as all it can do is bomb and a-10 is just better at everything while being lower in br.
also American 20mm is just better, doing more damage by 30mm is negligible when you can put 2-3 20mm’s
either way it should be 10.7 at best (i still think 10.3 is better here)
So, it can do what it was designed to do?
If you are trying to dogfight in something meant for dropping bombs, then you will struggle regardless of airframe. A-10 may be better in some respects, though weaker in others like it is slower, and yes, the AMX A-1A should be 10.7. But I dont really see the issue in a ground attack aircraft only being good in ground attack.
Not done loads of matches in it yet, but was reliably making it too and from targets without much issue and was even picking up a few A2A kills along the way.
It lacks the 20mm minigun the regular version have.
it isn’t ‘lack’ of 20mm Vulcan.
The Brazilian version of AMX didn’t use 20mm M61A1
because they [Edited] can’t afford M61A1. so they used DEFA instead
I just gotta wonder why. Why take away the aircraft’s main air-to-air armament and turn it into a bomb truck? I understand being disappointed in a premium (been there before, damn Tu-1) but that’s a problem of not doing sufficient research before making a purchase.
It’s only 0.5s, while the 9L is 0.4s
@SidewaysCube946 that graph is highly inaccurate or at least misleading- it doesn’t take into account missile thrust or acceleration- it simply assumes that each missile is constantly at its maximum stat card speed and g-load for exactly 5 seconds - in reality missiles don’t work like this whatsoever. Hence the AIM-9B outturning the 9G and J in the rear-aspect chart by the same person! (Sorry for the @, wasn’t allowed to quote just a picture for some reason)
Wasn’t it because the US refused to allow the export of the M61 to Brazil?
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Oh, damn, a Friend of mine told me Brazil loved DEFA. seems he fooled me :/
Thanks for the correction.
Exactly. The graph is a VERY simplified comparison, not taking into account the much more complex acceleration dynamics, and of course also nothing abou the seekers capabilities.
Still it’s gives a rough idea, and that’s what its for.
I don’t understand that sentence: What main air-to-air armament was taken away and what other role is the AMX supposed to have?
Sorry to sound condescending, but for me “unplayable” is for me always sounding like WT community slang for “can’t be bothered”.
I fly the AMX A-1A exclusively in sim and absolutely love it. It’s a great attacker for base bombing and thus to grind the Italian tree, and it can defend itself very well with the aparently so poor Piranhas and DEFA’s. And it’s a pleasure to fly and fight with. I got a K/D of roughly 3.4:1 in it, but my deaths are not all from enemy aircraft of course, so I guess it’s more 4:1, and that was when it was 11.3 still, and I often flew it also at 11.7…
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About this plane I haven’t flown once, and I’m not talking about whether the MAA-1s make this AMX worth 11.0.
It now has a 11.0 BR in Air Realistic Battle, that means it should make an equivalently 11.0 contribution in an AIR RB game. The argue point is whether this’s true/false.
But, anyway, Air Sim shouldn’t be mixed up with RB, they’re just two different games. Air Sim has its independent battle ratings system.
So my friend what’s the point of mentioning Air Sim?
Maybe he wants to point out
‘AMX A-1A is an unplayable plane’ is not true
unless we add an extra few sentences at the end.
‘AMX A-1A is an unplayable plane’ [in air realistic]
because they are playable on air sim maybe?
Edit: oh, he(Korithi guy) also claimed that AMX A-1A will be unplayable also in air sim.
I replied to someone claiming “sim is unplayable for it”, that’s why. I’m aware RB is acompletely different ball game, and especially there a 10.7 BR would be more reasonable.
sry my bad, this makes sense
You’re right! Totally forgot to think about that, apologies to anyone who was misled. Thank you again.
No problem, you did nothing wrong. Hopefully one of those people who know how to mod the game to spawn missiles in a custom battle can create a more accurate comparison chart. Because the idea is good but the data is very bad.
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In sim myself find this plane also mediocre, the radar is awfull so you can’t use it to spot targets so you have to see them by yourself unlike lots and lots of plane on the same BR, the plane is slow so you can’t reach bases fast and get out of there before the enemy goes there to hunt you down , the flight model suck and I think this is a gaijin’s fault, there is no way a plane with high mounted wings and being slow as it is performs so poorly in turns like it does , the missile as I stated is awfull aswell you have to get the enemy unnaware or hes gonna flare once and your missile will loose track and miss, the plane itself doesn’t work in game .
In GRB I’ve never used since I don’t have any ground vehicle to pair it with but looking at the planes at equal/ similar BR I find a small issue , called fox 3’s at .7 br above, pantsir and those op spaa’s, and the complete lack of an atgm so either you fly high asf to use the guided bombs without getting bonked by anything as soon as you exist on the enemy radar , either you just don’t play the plane.
paying for this plane was a mistake and I say this as a brazilian myself who wanted to play the only brazilian vehicle in game so far, it was not worth it and i just play it to feel that I’ve not lost 189 of my local currency for this which is not an small ammount
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I just think it looks nice :)
It’s not a search radar, just a rangefinder for the EEGS.
It’s a very limited plane to play in ARB at BR 11.0, which means that few players will enjoy its gameplay style.