American f18 at same br as German f18

20 M/S of clime rate.

Its pretty cut and dry my guy.

And that’s supposed to be big?

I wasn’t surprised to find Stockholm agreeing with OP, but you too? That’s kinda silly.

10% actually does make quite a difference.

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I get your point, but horrible example. Those jets should not be 13.3 in the first place, let alone the one with PL-12s

I was comparing those two aircraft with each other, in a complete vacuum. Disregarding other vehicles

Really?

All Hornets with the exception of 12.3 ones perform badly. It’s a magical issue of Matchmaking: both BR system and the exact formula behind team composition that screws over the entire 12.7 BR right now.

Mind you, the 12.3 Hornet is slightly worse than 12.7 Hornets but that -0.3 BR makes magic happen.

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Say anything that make sense-ish and they genuinely gonna beat OP argument to pulp. in this very instance anything against OP word is a genuine counterpoint.

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What?
America haters?

Are we citing stat cards in 2026

How the heck disagreeing with OP can be agreeing with OP.

This discussion literally went OP & YOU vs The World.

All you are doing here is initiating cheap bothsideism for acting neutral while you are silently siding with OP by making the opposite side look like an idiot.

Guys who are not agreeing with OP are fighting not because they are America haters, but because he made an awful take.
Well… take itself slightly gotten better, but his stance has downsized.
Even worse than the Dunder Mifflin way.

He probably believes that we hate America, and that is why we lynch the OP.

I disagreed with OP, you took issue to that. Only logical conclusion anyone could ever come to is you agreed with OP.

why is thread even still open? lol

Nah, you played bothsidesism in here, and I took issue to that

Only logical conclusion anyone could ever come to is I didn’t agreed with OP.

You are also skipping things just as OP skipped CF-188A.