Centauro 105/120 and freccia to USSR cv90 and Bradley as well Plus Vietnamese f5 that was sent ah ye also do not forget f14 from Iran and while we are on it Ukraine as Sub tt with All leopards and abrams cuz fuck it If everyone wants stuff from USSR give NATO vehicles to USSR as well!
I made sure that all the vehicles I did mention weren’t vehicles that were bought by Museum to be put up for display, I only mentioned vehicles that were captured tested/used. As @vExalted said it would be quite ridiculous to do so (giving a nation a vehicle just because it’s in a museum)
the reason for so many requirements would be to prevent oversaturation or use of those vehicles in battles, also I feel like many players of the nation the vehicles do come from would be more okay with the idea of them being added.
what would you think of this?
This is the only reasonable proposition. You should make an official suggestion.
One small issue. Spading every vehicle is impossible as the vehicles are being continuously added AND old vehicle modification updated / added. Example being napalm or incendiary bombs where I effectively lost 50+ spaded vehicles overnight :)
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I’m not saying they should just be a normal researchable vehicle but more as a special reward that you could perhaps even use to research the tech tree the vehicle originally comes from.
also what is PMCs?
Private military contractor. Basical non-state actors that will do military operations for the highest bidder. Example:Wagner
Edit: they also do security and policing but are more known for the military side of things
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it was primarily just a surface-level idea I would have to put more thought into it because it has issues just like the one you pointed out, but thank you for letting me know
Ah, thank you for informing me
Yes, I was stating those as they are in the game, and in reply to another comment, someone stated they didn’t want those same vehicles fighting each other. But they are already doing so with those examples. Japan also never received the Tiger as it was put on a sub-headed for mainland Japan and never arrived. They did however receive Panzer 3s for testing.
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the Japanese tiger was actually never shipped to Japan, when D-Day occurred some German forces went and got the tank (because I was just sitting in Port) and it was officially leased to the Germans if I’m correct, because the Japanese owned it
It still feels like a lot, could it be something along the lines of having to research all vehicles of that tier and having them sit to the right with premium and event vehicles. There could even be another tab in the tree like with helicopters where they have to reach say rank V before being able to research these special instance vehicles.
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I don’t care what faces what cause BRs balance things.
I only care about clutter [game size] and the current rules of adding vehicles being followed.
I don’t want private/aggressor aircraft in War Thunder cause it doesn’t add anything of substance.
What is a Mig-29 in USA going to do? Offer an inferior F-16C assuming it’s even armed with missiles which it might not be since it’ll be an aggressor; which means its old fire control system can be gone and replaced with a fire control system specifically for training.
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I don’t mind the USSR getting NATO vehicles
No one asked for private vehicles to be added and aggressor vehicles are of substance and many nations have vehicles classified as aggressors. Mig 29 is one of the vehicles America had definitive amounts of buying over 15+ of them through shell companies from the former soviet state of Moldova. They along with many captured vehicles were taken and tested in a variety of ways to get information about their capabilities. Yes, some of the time the plane would have been examined and retrofitted with familiar equipment and gauges instead. Whether or not they bought the missiles with them from Moldova is unknown but does it matter if the period equivalent Aim 9 would be strapped to it ~ around 1997?
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I mean, Russia would have absolutely no reason to have any of those where Italy would because Hungary operated Russian aircraft and Italy doesn’t have good indigenous options.
Sweden has a Finnish subtree and also a lack of indigenous vehicles and some basis to have some Russian aircraft added.
In my post I said USA doesn’t need them for the same reason Russia doesn’t need any help in this regard, so having things like Flankers in the British tree and Swedish tree and Mig 29s in Italy, and Britain as well make sense, wheras those same planes in the US tree don’t.
Additionally, for certain reasons, they would absolutely not be adding a Ukrainian subtree anywhere in the game.
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There are still missing aircraft from their tree that could fix many issues while actively making the tree more unique.
The Italian air tree is a shadow of what it could be.
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except if they are going to add T-90A Trophy (that olivia leaked to US) then they can also add something like tested centauro 105/120 or the proposed centauro with russian 125mm gun aswell freccia that was tested hell even captured cv90 and bradley as Trophy could be allowed thanks to the Trophy reason
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I was exclusively talking about air here,
USA does need help in ground right now, and I would agree that doing something like this instead of buffing the Abrams tanks protection is the wrong solution and a bit silly.
I’d say make ufp shatter shells again and and give all M1a2 Sep variants DU hull inserts anyways even if only the Sep V3 definitely had them, this wouldn’t be their first time using semi-historical modeling to fix balance issues and I’d much prefer that over the US tree needing T series tanks and leos to be competitive.
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I don’t want leos in the US tech tree, we don’t them, I would much rather have the arietes then the Leos