As always, I value your opinion my friend and will give what you say careful consideration even if I don’t initially agree. I did a 180 turn on CAS for example as a result of other players telling me I at least needed to try flying before complaining about CAS.
I am not underselling bushes for me they undersold themselves having used them and paid for them. I am responding to the claim they are Pay to Win or should be turned off when Gaijin sold them, and they were bought in good faith. One is the P2W argument the other a response to the OP.
I understand that there is of course a possible advantage otherwise I would not of have bought them, but I am disappointed overall, and I also find it hard myself as a buyer to determine exactly how much use they are, so for somebody who has never bought them like Vagimad or whatever his name is pretty ridiculous.
How can anybody say something is P2W when you never used the item in question?
That is, it really. Same with crew skills. Yes, it is a mild crutch but not anywhere as much as those who have never paid make out. I wish I had of known that as a newbie starting out.
I would not have bought them or half the stuff I got hoodwinked into as a novice. My mistake and I fully accept it’s my mistake. Saying that at the time I was off injured long term and lived on WT then so it is what it is.
Now sure I have had my laughs with bushes but how many and how do I know what the other player is thinking at a certain time? I can’t.
I have no stats to see regarding bushes I can only speculate. I can see myself on the replay from the other players eyes and much of the time I am a bright green mass of hedge on a grey background. Like anybody in hiding I light and go boom when I fire and even CAS can see it. Bushes don’t even render as far as CAS is concerned.
I can cover my Dicker Max in bushes and try to fool opposing players that it is a Panzer III or IV or I can cover it in black decals and pretend it is dead or use the flashing orange light to make it look like it’s on fire but do I fool anybody? Who knows? How will I ever know? I have had most of my better games recently where I ditched the bushes. Especially in the Breda 501.I think the eye is drawn to less to black or dark grey than Bright Green.
Most good players will have the enemy weak spots in their minds eye even when it is covered bushes, they see the tracks or the MG on the roof they know what it is. Occasionally somebody might hesitate and allow me to get a first shot but how often? 4000 GE’s worth? or was it lag or ping etc etc ? Again, how do I know?
I can cover my Porsche Tiger Weak spots, but you know, and I know what they are and when you see that Aerial and the Tiger out line you know where to fire. Often a player will use bushes to cover a weak spot and in doing so highlight it for you in case you forgot.
OK an M22 as a moving Hedgerow can be funny but I still get one shotted so often.
Bushes P2W no sorry. Can’t see that. Useful? To a degree but not at the cost they are and I can see why so many top players don’t bother.
So am I defending bushes? Damn right I am after paying for them and as we know Gajin hate refunds.
As I am currently Gaijin can take any of the things back, I bought to help my “Newbie” self as long as they refund me.
It may seem that I am in a state of " Oh no don’t take my bushes away its all I have " but in fact it is more of a “I am not so sure these damn bushes are helping” period I am going through at the moment, so I do object when somebody screams P2W when I paid, and I am not winning. The jury is out for me big time over whether I see a long-distance hiding enemy more clearly with bushes than without and I am in a phase of possibly losing the bushes completely anyway.
The big bush debate! Sounds like a US Presidential history film or a porn movie :)
