All Abrams turrets

FEP would just have gen 2 flir, better fire control that wt does not have and improve armor profile
thats like it
M1A1(not hc) turret armor cant even resist against 3bm46

FEP also has third generation Uranium armor elements

Yeah, and that’s why it’s a lower BR than SEP, for example. If you give it a FEP mod, it would have to have its BR increased.

Not to mention that then you would need to give it M829A2/A3, while M1A1 is currently limited only to M829A1.

M1A1 FEP is a completely different and separate tank from M1A1, and they would need to be drastically different BRs as well. You can’t just make FEP a mod for basic A1…

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Then why dont HC have 2nd thermal

HC is an older variant which has 1st gen thermals.
FEP is a more modern variant than HC, which is why it has more advanced thermals.

M1A1 - 1986
M1A1 HC - 1991
M1A1 FEP - 2004

If M1A1 FEP were introduced to the game, it would be comparable to M1A2 SEP. You can’t make a 12.0-level package an optional modification of a 11.3 tank…

If anything, maybe FEP could be a modification for HC.

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Its quite the opposite but still not the full answer. Rafael´s US7360479B2 was originally published in 2004 as Merkava 4 started being produced in small quantities. Further evidence that this kind of protection is part of Merk 4 armor are the explosive markings on most of its armor modules (warning labels), the confirmed presence of flyer plate-like elements seen on damaged modules and the fact that the overall layout of the armor modules doesn´t correspond to traditional ERA. So the modules have explosive-reactive materials, they have flyer plates but yet don´t seem like ERA.

However, the very likely SLERA elements inside Merk 4 armor aren´t the main APFSDS defeating mechanism. They play a part but in reality the whole module works in a different way when impacted by APFSDS. For more detail on the matter I suggest: Understanding Merkava 4 armor protection. Part 1 of 3

The first source we have with clear armor rating for Merkava 3 is Chinese, back when they had unprecedented access and collaboration with Israeli military industry during the early 1990s. One popular theory is that J-10 traces its origins to this period. And yes, the source is part of an article regarding the official visit of Merkava Program Director (General Tal) to China. Patents from this time period corroborate what the Chinese state Merkava 3 armor is composed off. For reference see US5070764A - Combined reactive and passive armor - Google Patents.


Integrated NERA y ERA

So its about 420mm KE for the front hull, including the powerpack compartment. BM42 was a realistic threat at the time or shortly afterwards since even until today its part of Syrian ammunition inventory.

man im piss how hard it is to see using gen 1 thermal
I already have 360p vision irl and i have to downgrade them in game just because gaijin want accurate
why not just give them only 2nd gen thermal then

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How are you so sure they are better? maybe irl they are even worse than ingame? lmao

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Hahah, yeah, I can’t bring myself down to using 1st gen thermals.

It’s literally what keeps me from playing Sweden and its Strv 122 lineup. They may be the best MBTs in the game in every way… but they have 1st gen gunner thermals, and that’s enough to make me not want to play them, xD.

That would be an artificial change of technical specs of a vehicle, which is not something we want to have in War Thunder.

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Insert T-80B
Insert 2s38

gaijin wont use a chinese source for the merkava sadly.

yet they will use a american source for a russian tank

? where at?

while it is a american translation of a russian document it is still an american source
this one is kinda iffy though
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/CU9Dzgo9YqiS

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noice

memes-gif-16 the pooh

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Thats their problem. If what is stated there is substantiated in Israeli patents (I´ll write about that someday), then they should reconsider.

if that was the case then the russian document saying the abrams could withstand 3bm 60 on the hull would have been accepted. “Hit the Abrams’ Vulnerable Points” – The Armourers Bench

but was that russian document from a collaboration of the two nations

3rd party sources is not reliable*

Is FEP just the Marines equivalent to the AIM?

Or did they have AIM with the DU armor?