To be fair earlier I had a game end in four minutes because a couple of attackers annihilated the tickets. Even more stupid than airfield AA, but eh.
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The beautiful map of Poland or Alamein, the best thought out maps
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today I’m dedicating myself to GB, and my god how much AA sucks, practically the opponents can fly peacefully over the bases and kill the people who spawn and you can’t do anything, because you are with a helicopter, and you are low slow and with the enemy behind, and there are some AAs that are probably from WWII that can’t hit anything, Gaijin wake up because these things suck
Its because the AAA around the AFs and Heli AFs have basically been disabled. They are for painting targets, not actually dealing any damage to air targets. Had a heli hover directly above our heli spawn, no took no damage at all
I find that quite ridiculous sincerely, and unrealistic
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why would i want to make impression on some arrogant wt forum user?
my stats are good enough for me to say im a good player.
even if - what does that have to deal with the situation?
but im now maining fighters, while for you… i think it was long time ago since you tried attackers?
it may not take as much knowledge of the game, ill give you that - some attackers also take no skill to drive either, take for example wyvern or ju 288. but this doesnt mean that automatically all attackers = 0 skill, there is a good reason why bots never use aircraft such as PB4Y, B-17, B-29, > Ki-49 < , yer-2 … try playing any of those aircraft in “just go” fashion and most of the time you will not make it to bomb target, or ground troops in case of Ki-49 with inferior bomb load and other alike.
i played bombers a lot in the past and i realised that if i position myself properly, i can maximize my chances of dettering hostile fighters with my turrets - in most cases this meant dragging the fight long enough for friendly fighters to intervene… if they wanted to, but sometimes i’d even earn a kill myself.
people who just go without applying any effort, could not stand their ground against opposition for even a short while in most of the cases.
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To whoever is flagging: this is a part of AAA discussion, it began here;
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I’m flying AD-4 very often. And Fw 190 F8. I just do not waste my time with ground attacking because my brain would die from lack of activity.
There’s nothing skillfull about attacker and bomber gameplay. Even using gunners requires learning 2-3 tricks and it’s exactly the same setup every time.
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it varies depending on what vehicles you fly, i had a game in B-25 yesterday where i got wyvern into turn, then slowly ripped it apart with gunners while controlling the aircraft with keys (and yes, away from where it wanted to go). But ill give you that since it holds true for most (not all) long range bombers.
but either being unable to do like anything or ruining match for everyone still isnt fair, no?
Problems with bombers involve the fact, that properly flown bomber is a nightmare to deal with and it’s not even fun to shoot these down. B-18B will spray you from 2km away while outclimbing and outrunning your plane. Lovely experience, can recommend.
In other words - I’d actually feel better with no bombers around as I hate having thwm on my team and facing them is extremely frustrating since against semi-competent bomber user you simply have to climb above them which takes ages and sometimes is not even possible.
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well, its complicated, in some aircraft, its really hard to shoot them down, in dedicated interceptors, its a few shots and its gone.
what you pointed out is also an issue and i have similar feelings about it, though, if we get proper game mode where bombers also have a say, maybe they could get airfield spawn only and become less of a nuisance. And should with that air rb also take a good example from EC, maybe shooting them down shouldnt even be a requirement for a smooth and fast win.
Yes I understand this. Exploiting Airfield AA to maintain energy and only enter advantageous fights is how I have a 40:1 K/D with the 190 D-9. I fully understand how to exploit it for the most advantage.
If every player played like I did with the D-9 then nobody would actually enjoy the game.
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Lol this is why I play jets
“I don’t play props because of AF AA abuse but I still think it’s still a valid mechanic players should use”
Actual???
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So basically AF AAA made you quit props? How nice. Maybe we should do something about it then, huh?
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I quit props cause I better with missiles and plane positioning than I am gunning
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So skill issue. The problem is, we want to enjoy our little prop fights and AF AAA ruins a lot of games via its abuse.
There have been some solutions:
- removal of AF AAA
- timer with cooldown (only makes sense if cooldown applies to entire pre-made squad)
- zones with forced j-out if you stay there too long and timer.
Everything is better than current situation where AF camping is not abused constantly only because it’s so boring and toxic, and not because it’s ineffective.
Feet_Pics who is generally not a person worth discussing anything with (starts flinging insults and trolling if he encounters arguments he can do nothing against) tested AF camping in a fast plane with good high speed performance and achieved awesome results.
If everyone copied his tactics, the game would become unplayable.
He’s not camping, he’s being sarcastic towards players who do that, and there are quite a few in specific squads who do abuse the AF as reversal and positional tool to maintain their KD because KD is sooooo important :P
If you keep charging headlong into AF AAA and getting killed by it, then surely that is a lack of skill on your part.