Airfield AAA Discussion Thread - Air Realistic Battles

This!
Just today I was killed my a mediocre player who only dared to attack me after I got hit by Airfield AAA - admittedly I was skirting the edge and trying to lure HIM out, but burnt my proverbial fingers. He was the final player. And he was too chicken to fight on equal terms.
We should be aware whom we are “protecting” here.

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wayne gretzky didnt allways win the cup sorry to tell you Mark won one after and it sure was greasy tho …best dont allways win in life ,sports or games rofl

That’s not a legit argument defending s gsmeplay mechanic that serves only trolls, malicious players and absolute immoral stat padders.

Running down a clock playing safely while in the lead is what near every professional sports team does when they need to… Why would peoples mindset change in a game? Im not saying its 4d chess level playing but frankly the amount of players I see shooting helppless players with no fuel that have fought hard and well makes AAA a necessity or you end up with scrubs telling good players they need teammate cover to refuel while these scrubs sit endlessly at side of airfield harvesting people who cant fight lol

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What your describing is like 3 bombers out of 5000 choices

also, should fighter be at height automatically and the bomber a free food in reverse scenario?

Games are made to be fun, not frustrating, tedious, toxic and boring. And here problems can be easily removed by removal of AF AAA.

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I would propose a solution that protects the beaten up player who needs repair and refuel, but not the coward waiting endlessly or circling endlessly.

How about airfield AAA is active as long as a repair timer ticks down and a minute after. No longer.
And it starts when a plane is near touchdown - use same mechanic as an airfield capture to start the AAA.

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Why?
I mean, I shot someone up,. he lands, within 10s he’s repaired.
I have wasted fuel and ammo and now I’m facing the same plane who can easily regain position.
My favourite got shot down, landed, took off, got critted and further damaged, landed again, and at this point I was almost out of ammo and fuel, dove after him, when I got within 1km, he was already reparied because 10s repair time, I died to AAA.
The guy only accepted fights within 8km of his airfield.

I think making life easier for people who have clearly lost the engagement serves no purpose.

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Why, because very simple, there is no chivalry among players.

I remember situations when after a thorough and hard battle, my plane by now out of ammunition, severely short on fuel, trailing a line of smoke, I had just finished my last opponent for this departure, and taking stock of my situation decide to go for the airfield for some much needed repair and refuel, making my way across mid-field AAA if any left… prepared to land … only to get shot down by some spawn camper who was waiting for incoming helpless easy prey. Same situation, just reversed: again you would enable players who don’t dare to fight on equal terms, and instead like hyenas prey only on the wounded.

Yes, both are not illegal by the games’ rules. But is this really something you’d like to encourage?

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Or, in other terms:
we’re here trying to prevent the system from being abused, not preventing the legitimate use it was intended for.

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That “camper” was the reason you were able to kill all these aces in the first place, he made his team weaker when they needed him. The fact you died afterwards is NOT a problem.
Your team has failed to win against enemy team short of 1 plane. I see no issue here. It’s actually the right result!

You expect to get magical help simply because you have no ammo and are damaged.
You should be relying on your team, and if your team is gone - tough luck, bro.

Once again - if that guy helped his team,. you would have died earlier.

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Some teammate sitting at enemy airfield for ten minutes waiting to free kill the guys I fought is not the reason I get my kills but guess what I am the reason he gets any…

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Yes he does play that way hard to believe right…

Lol no.
It works like this - if he kills you, it’s your own team’s damn fault it comes down to 1 v 1. No one else is to blame. Guy made it easier for you by being useless. I love useless enemies. They allow me to kill people with an idea what they’re doing when my team is bad.
But when I’m alone at the end and get jumped - tough luck. Should have taken less damage.

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If he kills me its not my teams fault … Do you blame your teammates for dying ???Its not anyones fault but to act all superior for waiting for helpless players to land is what we call stealing candy from baby’s its not something to be actually proud or brag about

Partially, yes to both.

If your team can’t provide adequate support for each other, then that’s a failure on all of you. If your teammates play poorly and die, that’s on them. This is a team game, and so you need to be able to support your teammates, part of that means covering for them, baiting for them, and should also include protecting your airspace.

Why are they helpless? They were in a perfectly fine aircraft at the start of the match just like all of us. If they misplayed and got shot to bits and need to repair, or sprayed away all their ammo or brought too light a fuel load, that’s a mistake on their end. Sure, sometimes you just can’t help it because of the vehicle, but that’s when you need to be strategic and work with your team to get a safe opportunity to land. You shouldn’t get free cover to land and repair just because you made mistakes earlier in the game and are vulnerable.

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But flying straight to enemy airfield being carefull not to engage anyone until they landing is pure skillfull play and the people actively participating and actually trying to play with teammates coming back to rearm just scrubs right lol we all no why you want no defense attacks

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I think you misunderstand the situation. Nobody does this. Period. I’ve never once seen this, never once done this, and it’s funny that you even think this because the death zone that is airfield AA makes trying to kill people who’re landing a death sentence, so nobody even thinks about what you’re suggesting. Stop victimising airfield campers, because how it actually goes is that they get approached or engaged by someone, feel a bit dodgy about it, and dive out to the airfield.

If you’re all playing as a team and actively participating, why on earth do you need AA to cover your landing? Work as a team to protect the airspace on your side of the map instead of expecting a broken game mechanic to do all the heavy lifting for you. You aren’t entitled to a free repair or re-arm because you whiffed your chance earlier against someone who outplayed you.

You’ve fabricated a false narrative to try and defend airfield camping and victimise campers. Try harder next time.

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lol nobody does that … Bro there you tube vids of f-16A getting 6+ kill game doing it with Mavericks only weapon used other than strafing runs when he ran out and literally every prop match there is players that try… Do you even watch what other players do in this game or do you just yammer on about muh teamwork…

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Ooh whoop de doo, someone at top tier used mavericks. Ignoring how problematic AA is at every other BR, especially at props, but okay. There’s youtube videos? Awesome! Now show me people pulling it off every match and then we’ll talk.

If someone can sneak to your base and launch mavericks on people landing, that’s a team issue.

No there isn’t. Just, no. I don’t know what reality you’re in where chasing someone back to their airfield is “flying straight to enemy airfield being carefull not to engage anyone until they landing”, nor where eliminating most of their team and following them back to base because their airspace is uncontested is that too.

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