You still get even, you play sim for the vehciels them self not to grind. That is a bonus the RP. as long I play sim and dont lose SL all is good.
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Please play the same game without premium plane and premium time. I bet you will be very disappointed …
It’s clear that you can earn enough if you go full premium.
The problem is, that without you can’t even afford new planes or even spawn costs if you are not an above-average player.
This stupid useful actions system is great for PVE or singleplayer game modes, where you know the game mechanics, have control over the situation and can prevent death by being smarter than a monkey.
Just grind your points, wait, don’t die, repeat.
But in a game mode where human players are supposed to kill each other, this whole system in combination with the high spawn costs just does not work.
Especially in top tier where you have 2 min. between takeoff and enemy contact, we need something to offset the spawn costs. Maybe a flat 5000 SL bonus per kill.
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Are you saying the useful action system has increased your chances of finding a “real” player?
wow, thats great for viggens. awesome. didnt even notice that in the notes
Math time.
82 minutes.
75465 RP.
696% reward multiplier.
10842 base RP; before multiplier. = 75465 / 6.96.
132 base RP per minute before premium account and before premium aircraft. = 10842 / 82.
Now back to @sartt 's screenshot.
He flew multiple aircraft, without a premium account earning 12,101 RP.
103 minutes played.
Multipliers: 376 F-111, 364 F-105 and A-10A, 388 A-7E.
12,101/3.76 = 3218 base RP.
3218/103 = base 31 RP per minute.
I don’t understand how Sartt managed 31 RP per minute besides vibing more than I did.
Sputnik got 9188 base RP in 93 minutes with his F-1C. 98.8 base RP per minute.
And 4677 base RP in 46 minutes with the same aircraft. 101 base RP per minute.
@joshje100
Rewards are based on score, not specific actions.
@LeoNerdo
I just did the math for you that takes off premium account and premium aircraft, and even the base multiplier of aircraft going straight to the base RP.
Here’s some air RB math:
5450 RP for 5 minutes.
5450 / 4.76 = 1144 base RP /5 minutes = 228 base RP per minute.
So while it’s higher than my 132 RP per minute sim match just now, I also didn’t try hard in that sim match.
Bad changes that no one asked for? Yeah… They definitely care…
They care about MiG-23ML sales after nerfs.
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Congratulations, you can bomb bases for 1.5 hours. I bet you’re happy with a system that punishes actual gameplay. Heaven forbid the game rewards someone skilled enough kill 5 people in 5 minutes and then reset for 20. Until i can make as much as I did in 30+ kill games pre Useful Actions, the system is fucking stupid, and anyoe defending it is a fucking retard
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Just a balancing for chinese tu-4/b-29 and f-4 farmers.
But maybe better to just ban them and remove usefull actions?
Except I did CAP, as well as capture points when available.
Tried to hunt down a prop player, but they just knew where I was at all time.
AI overhaul is needed for superior CAP in air RB and SB.
Until then… you play EC the way it’s been played since 2018: Bombing, sometimes fighting, capping A, taking out AI.
Or anyone definding it just want to get rid of people like you and ban you to RB. There you can live out your powerfantasy and seal club. Every one else just flys. I simply dont get the min max caluclation SL/per screaming eagel bay throu month caluclation.
Question is do you get even and can you cover all your expenses?
Or do you run a negative SL balance?
You get a free roam expirance where you can choose when and what to attack.
Yes EC could need some imrpovemnt, in mission design and so forth. But still.
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I don’t play for reward. I play to win. Under the current system you are actively punished for exceeding X amount of activity (effort) per unit of time. And similarly you are punished for having a period of extraordinary effect on the match, and then a lull as things reset.
Why do you not want to be compensated for your displays of skill?
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I am by not going in to minus.
As are you. If you play for the win the SL should nto matter at all. You still got your postive K/D.
I want to be compensated for my entire effort in the match, not some arbitrary maximum gayjin deems fit per 15 minutes. And in fact depending on how the match plays out i am very in the negative despite a 3-1 or even 5-1 KD, because every kill after 2 in a 15 minute period is worth nothing, despite the spawn cost always costing the same.
You must have rocks in your head if you really think this is a proper system
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You are a sim pilot in sim envorment flying for a sim nation that pays you by a sold not by bonuses.
If it eases the pain. You can look at it from that perspective, your nto a mercenary.
You can thank chinese botting to sell accounts for that btw
Instead of banning them outright they gut rewards because these botters buy $50 premiums to use for it each time
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Funny, considering you respond to my response to someone who asked for it… ;-)
Jokes aside, after the discussion yesterday in the Update thread I’m also not so enthusiastic about it, but haven’t been able to check yet how it was implemented.
I’ve seen enough hints that at least some modern RWR’s (seen stuff about Harrier Gr.7 and F/A-18’s…) are able to distinguish between friend and foe, but those examples are pretty modern and apparently based on datalink and database comparison, and would only be able to filter out signals of a certain type, so if the type is present on both teams it would still not know what to do -which is basically the one situation where this would help in the game…
As for whether it “waters” don the simulation game mode, well, unsure abot this as well -considering it is a game mode where we still lack a lot of controls, but then have large RWR and radar displays even isf not present in such form in the aircraft cockpit model, or take on job of both pilot and WSO/RIO/…, nameplates, etc…
It’s not a hardcore sim like DCS, but at the same time I also don’t want it to be RB+.
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Can you find there MiG-29, F-16 and others?
Also F/A-18 is different case, it have datalink, that transfers ally’s position also.
There’s no datalink in game, at least NOT for missiles.
But you upvoting adding of non historical feature.
For me the waste of time would be flying something else just for the grind … I play for the fun, this is not a job ;)
Regarding the changes in RWR, at least now I don’t have to listen the anoying lock sound in the airfield when you are close to an Su-17/22 or Kafir Canard that have allways the rangefinder on
Amen, brother!
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