Air Simulator Battles - General Discussion / Support HUB

No, the game master didn’t think about the game before replying.

fairly sure game masters are just normal players but just have perms that let them moderate chat. so he’s a normal player lol

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Trainingdays is a very good youtuber

This happen when the gaijin overnerf the red side jets. Just the hardcore players want to fly in 12.7-14.3 with red jets

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13.3/13.7 is definitely redside favoured. 14.3 and 13.0 more even because the best planes are ones that can be on either side, although 13.0 blue planes are generally better than red ones. 12,7 is pure blue dominance

12.3 exists as well

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didn’t even need to touch 12.3, at least red has something at 12.7. 12.3 is just what jh7a? vs f14 and f18? lmao

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the only red side fighters in that bracket are the Mig-23ML/MLD and the J-8B
the rest are strike aircraft

and they have to fight the f-18, f-14, mig-21 bison and the M2K depending on matchmaker

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Idk i dont feel the big redside power in my f2 or f16

f-2 and f-16 are on both sides at 13.0.13,3,13,7. not 12.7 tho

I think that we need to stop thinking in terms of br and start thinking about weapons capability. I think that we should have an semi active tier from 12.3- 13.0 as a permanent bracket. We should allow certain aim 120 slingers in this bracket if they have flight models that wouldn’t servive high tier. These aim 120 slingers would be the harrier 2, f4 Ice and kfr c10.

Fighting in the 12.0 - 12.7 Br bracket is demoralizing for anyone at the bottom of the tier. Especially when IRCCM missiles are in this bracket. This Br rotation is completely useless at the current time.

The best answer to correct this problem is to create a permanent Br bracket from 12.7 - 13.0. This would force period appropriate fighters to face each other. Players on the red side would access to semi active missiles and would face vehicles with semi active missiles most of the time. The best way to balance the F15A, F16ADF, JAS39A, and F14 B is to bring the first generation SU27/J11 and SU 33 down to 13.0. This would also provide an intermediate tier for players to get used to IRCCM missiles and evading semi active missiles.

The 13.3 -14.0 should be a permanent Br Bracket to allow planes with fully active missiles to face each other.

So aircraft like the Tornado F3 Late just get deleted from the game?

How did you build this slippery slope?

Tornado F3 Late vs 13.7s like the J-10A and Gripen C is pretty much DOA. Vs 14.0s as well… It stands 0 chance.

The only bracket where it is even remotely playable is 12.3-13.3.

The tornado could be a great support to the nato teams. Through out the forum i have read people’s concerns about bring the su27 down. The main concern was the r27er. I think another aim120 bus like the tornado f3 at 13.0 coule be a great compromise.

I would leave the smt at 13.3. It’s essentially the f15 c of redside with less armament and slower avionics.

No one plays tornado f3 late anyways tbh, havent seen one at all in the 13.3 bracket yet
most people are flying out f-16a or su33 or jf17 from my experience in 13.3

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Most skipped it I think, the stock grind for it is brutal.

I havent touched SB in months with the lack of any new content, but I do plan to at some point.

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I think it could be a great 13.0. If the harrier 2 is dont see why the tornado f3 isn’t.

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