in theory yes , but every fucking game is br 13.7 because of the premiums being flooded in the game man , dont you understand 12.7 doesnt exist anymore
Sim has rotating brackets, not automatic matchmaker.
Coincidentally, January 9 and 10 are 11.7-12.7 days. Weekend, in other words. Ideal day, in other words.
in 18 hours.
With a few exceptions (e.g. 13.0 which has 2 rotations and 14.0 which has none), all BR’s have exactly one rotation where they are top BR. That’s perfectly normal.
As other said: play something else when the rotation doesn’t favour a specific aircraft!
Here for example a “timetable” I use for myself:
yeah. and thats almost throughout the whole marathon it was 13.3 and 13.0
when i bought the f18 it was much more often, than now, but i dont have the current bracket list.
i didnt right sessions down, but it seems like a bullshit. or its extremely unlucky of me to get into the game, avoiding exactly those days. because almost every time i get into the game, which is at least every other evening lately, its either 13.3 or 13.0
i remember 1 time, when it was 12.7 and if not for that, i would be completely convinced there is no 12.7 bracket anymore.
No, the rotations are like this since August 2025, they didn’t change during the event.
Before, it was like this, with 12.3, 13.3. and 13.7 never being top BR in any rotation, and 13.0 top BR in two rotations:
No need to write it down aftewards, the schedule is fix, as I said since August 2025, when the range was extended to 14.3 and the rotations adjusted to be more fair.
I even have the brackets on my smartphone’s calendar widget, so I know every day what BR 's are top BR’s , and thus what to play.
Also, don’t just “Take Part” from Sim’s main window, but select “Room List” that opens the list from all currently running games, from which you can select what to play, even on what map. There you also easily see what BR-brackets the current rotation has…
yeah, i know. thats what im doing most of the time - sometimes room list is just not loading. especially if im trying to host a map. and thats why im seeing br im facing every time im playing the game.
well i dont know what to say then. i dont have any lists to show, except for my memory. i just dont see how such a coincidence can occur - through all the maraphon ive seen 12.7 exactly once and i did the whole maraphon, all the stars, in airsim.
usually it was “checking if i can fly f18, i dont want to because of the bracket and i go fly something top tier, that doesnt depend on a bracket list”
Given the strongest by far ARH slinger at 13.0 is German, and should be the same BR as the F3 Late… Im not really sure what the issue is.
most of the bluefor 13.0 ARH slingers are actually on par with the F-18C. (AV-8B(NA), Sea Harrier FA2). Only one that might be an issue is the Kfir C10.
That being said, they need to decompress that BR bracket significantly. but dont expect to never see ARH in your F-18C. I still think it would be 0.3 off the weakest of the ARH slingers
the ICE? really? so not the couple of f14, not the c10 with esa radar and not a harrier, but the ICE with no hud? why?
F-14 has the easiest to defeat ARH missiles in-game, unless you have a really bad RWR, you should never be killed by those (F-18 does not have a bad RWR). The RWR is limited iirc, and the radar also has its issues. F-14As dont even have all-aspect, and the F-14B doesnt have IRCCM
C10, whilst it has an excellent radar, has no IRCCM and a very limited missile total. Its a good airframe sure, with an excellent radar, but it does have significant limitations. Also there is a debate to be had that AMRAAM is better than Derby in a lot of situations.
Harriers are subsonic, Which inherrently limits what they can do and how they can operate. FA2 even has an incredibly limited loadout. One of the most restricted in the game imo. Only aircraft more restricted is probably the AJ37/AJS37
ICE is supersonic with okay handling, decent radar, decent RWR, with 4x IRCCM and 4x AMRAAM. The closest equivalent is the Tornado F3 Late currently at 13.3. Quite frankly. the F3 Late should either be 13.0 or the ICE should be 13.3. There is no reason for them to differ in BR.
i get, that premium f18 are almost C variants. but the difference between having ARH or SARH is gigantic, when you facing a bunch of ARH slingers in every match.
Maybe, but Id still argue the FA2 is closer in performance to the F-18C than any other ARH slinger in-game at the moment despite having ARH and I think it should be 12.7 until such time they fix the Harriers
ARH doesnt automatically make an aircraft better than one without.
Heck. If im not careful in the FA2, im a free kill for any of the pure Fox-2 slingers
which changes absolutely nothing. you still need to do it and while you are doing it, they can do whatever they want. and they have a bunch of them. it easy to play, so there is a bunch of them around.
and we can stop on excellent everything, but the quantity of missiles and IRCCM, which is not working, like, at all, if an opponent knows how to turn off the afterburner.
well, thats true, but at least AV-8b have an existing HUD, which is important in sim, isnt it? actually, im assuming here, because i dont own a harrier - not a fan of them.
so its a okeish radar, rwr and no HUD with 4 amraams. probably thats why im seeing them once every several maps.
ive actually thought about getting a crew for it and putting it to work at least sometimes, but flying a phantom airframe with no HUD made it look like a bad idea. and it seems im not alone in this.
also there is JA39DI, which is premium from discounts and there is a whole pack of them, despite them having only 4 ARHs.
so, as i see it, we are defining the “best” differently. because your best seems to be the least popular, because the others, excluding harrier, are easier to get.
yeah they do. they wont make them better in dogfight, right. but what if they wont get into one?
It might not be popular, but it is factually the best at 13.0 and either the F3 Late needs to join it at 13.3 or it needs a BR increase to 13.3. Simple
Okay, Im in my FA2, you are in your F-18C. I fire an AMRAAM at you. you easily notch and defeat it. I fire my second, same again, I fire my third, same again. I usually run 1+3 missiles with no guns.
What do I do now?
I cant run away. I cant dogfight. My only option is to J out or let you kill me.
If you know what you are doing ARH missiles are easily dealt with.
im not the one against it. they can delete it for all i care. it wasnt the popular plane even before eurofighters.
why cant you? you are quite far. and ill gamble big, if ill try to just fly towards you in multipath. on many maps, where surface is not entirely flat, its hard to maintain the alt. so yeah. you can launch a missile and go higher, so it will be AT LEAST we both dead, if ill try to lock you and will get my face off of the ground.
yeah they are. but you have to do it. and if you are flying with SARHs against ARHs you will always be in a defense.
also we somehow now talking about some 1x1 perfect duel, which is not the case in the game, is it? we have other players, we have close or far airfields, we have different terrain and all that.
so in your example: yes, you can run away. f18 is not the exemplarily fast and when ill catch up to you after defeating all the missiles, ill probably die from airfield AA or will get into another fight.
Because I top out at Mach 0.9 and wont be firing much past 15km.
If you cant catch me in a supersonic, then you are playing the game wrong
only if you want to fight alone and far away from your field.
but anyway. im kinda getting tired of battling with you imagination, dude. we strayed far from the topic id say. people are not flying harriers. they are flying f14, c10 and JA39
i dont have a problem with harriers. i do with a horde of f14 and c10. and its not 1x1 either.
Fair enough.
Though jsut as much as you dislike dealing with stronger aircraft when trying to play a 12.7 aircraft in 13.0, so do I trying to play a 12.3 in a 12.7 bracket. Which until recently, Was all they could face.
Tornado GR4 vs F-18C is not a fair fight
tornado against anything SARH carrying is not a fair fight. just as SARH against ARH.
lets phrase it that way: ARH carrying should be much more of a br difference, than 0.3
its whole another way of battle.
OR
at least would be great to get a permanent rooms with all against all. so it wont be that one sided.
Except it wouldnt be.
As it stands, the F-18, especially those with Aim-7Ps are under BRed and should be higher than they are currently.
If/when there is a decompression, I could still see the F-18C being the same or similar BR to the weakest of the ARH slingers like the F-14A and Sea Harrier FA2. Such as in this suggested decompression
ARH shouldnt automatically mean that they should be BRed to death. Just like how all-aspect IR slingers dont automatically mean a higher BR than anything with only rear-aspect, or SARH, or PD radar, etc etc. Thats not how game balance works.
As it stands, FA2 should probably be 12.7 and the F-18C should get Aim-9M and move to 13.0
These suck in anything that doesnt have a radar. Which is more common than you think at 12.3/12.7 and even then, Same aircraft vs same aircraft gets really dull fast