Low CM isn’t really a problem though? we have crappy F-16’s at 13.7 with 45 CM and they fight much scarier vehicles than the S4 would if it went up a bit
he wants the S5 to move down using the S4 as a justification, because apparently the maw and extra CMs dont make a difference
but arguing with him is pointless since he will always deflect after you make an argument
and my suspicion is that he wants the S5 to move down so that he can seal club in his favorite jet
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You have no weapons to fight against 13.7 properly, what are you going to do in a mirage against an F-15 wiith 8 AMRAAM’s constantly pressuring you?
You can just run away most of the time since you’re fast in the F-16
Fast? Brother against the 90% uptuers to 14.3 the only thing im fast compared to is the Gripen E and the Hornets
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literally every single 12.7 jet
its almost like the issue isnt that the m2k is to high in br but rather compression
and both of those will out accel you at low speeds
You would still have the same problems even if you decompressed, theres still a bunch of jets with ARH missiles at 13.0 and 13.3. Decompressing the BR twice isn’t going to happen
Idk if Gripen E will let me check statshark since im too lazy to laod warthunder
ah yes so thats why we should advocate for more compression and make the issue worse
just accept that your whole point is nonsense
your argument has already fallen apart
Its the same as the S4 you’re so stuck up thinking it’s overpowered when it’s not
you are repeating yourself and it seems like the CMs only dont matter if it is in favor of your argument
there is a word to describe that, its called being a hypocrite
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Yeah Hornets are faster at the start alongside the gripen until about 800 kph where the Gripen loses to the F16 then around 1000 kph the hornet loses to the F16 takes about 25 seconds before the f16 beats them in acceleration
You know other people can agree with my suggestion right? You’re thinking I’m doing it for personal gain even though I barely touch the jet these days. I’m focused on the Japanese tech tree, not “seal clubbing” or whatever. All those kills I have are from when the plane was first released awhile ago.
another red hering because you have no proper argument to counter
just admit that the m2k moving down in br is nonsense or you know stop responding
your whole justification is nonsense and your argument has fallen apart
you dont have any argument anymore thats why you bring up irrelevant stuff like you grinding japan
and i have a feeling that you will respond again making you look like a clown even more
Uh yeah having a little more countermeasures is negligible both in downtiers and uptiers because apparently chaff and MAW makes the S5 a super weapon lol
man i knew it
schroedingers CMs
can you decide if they matter or dont
never said that
i said they should be the same br, 12.7
Honestly I’m just curious how you would deal with an F-15 or F-16 loaded with AMRAAM’s in a Mirage. Because once you fire your SARH missile you have to keep lock but if you can’t do that in a 90 degree notch so you either have to hug the ground or run away. Theres no reason the Mirage should be fighting these jets because you can’t counter them. How is that even somewhat fair for someone trying to research modifications?
Honestly I’m just curious how you would actually respond to my arguments instead of deflecting
You only get 4 missiles, like the MiG-21 Bison, at 12.3