You’re like a parody of the stereotypical American main.
The F-5’s nonsense damage model and heat signature are well known in the community. Here’s a link to a video where someone actually tested the heat signature empirically.
Spoiler alert, despite having the exact same engines in the exact same placement on the exact same throttle setting, the G/91 YS can be easily locked from over 3km away, while the F-5A/C cannot.
Not sure if this extends to the F-5E, but he can be forgiven for assuming the meme-worthy handholding of two F-5 models extends to a third.
The damage model is harder to empirically prove, but anyone with first hand experience fighting the F-5s can easily tell you of times where the F-5 just shrugged off battle damage that would have outright killed any other plane. I squaded by with a buddy of mine that had an F-5C, and when spectating him I was shocked at the amount of punishment it took to take him down. Here’s an example clip from the same video.
That’s not going into the fictional flares, missiles, etc.
As someone with fist-hand experience farming F-5s for free kills, I can very confidently say their damage model is nothing special.
How it works is the literal dozens of players who have played it and confirmed it’s OP, have far more credibility than one noob who failed to use Magic 2s properly.
Ok no that’s a whole other level of skill issue. You can literally just press two buttons, pitch up and roll, and evade Aim-7F literally for free.
No need to derail the discussion like that (as you love to do) when there’s already plenty of people vouching for it in the most recent dedicated Mirage F1C thread, including the capabilities of the Matra 530.
F1c is pure rage bait to play, literally you’re useless outside of the magic 2s. Do you not know the chaff button that dispenses chaff? How are you dying to pulse radar missiles?
Not arguing it should be lower, it’s fine where it is. Gets 2 super good missiles but is useless outside of that.
That would be a strawman, as no-one here is arguing that it needs to go down in BR. We’re arguing that it’s currently fine where it is. You’re the one arguing it needs to go up by a whole 0.7 BR, based on wildly inaccurate assumptions about how it handles.
The OP even clarifies that their problem with the F1 is that it cannot handle 12.7/13.0, which is completely fair. No plane around that BR can handle uptiers. I had the misfortune of trying to spade the F-4EJ Kai recently, that thing against ARH missiles and fourth gen fighters is just misery.
I could just as easily pull one of hundreds of threads about how the F-4S/J are completely underpowered and need to go down to 11.0. That’s not a justification for anything (Other than better tutorialization of gameplay mechanics).
Well on release that’s what it was with only magic 1s. Also had much worse flight performance and lower rip speed at 11.3.
It was abysmal dog water.
They had to give it all aspect magic 2s after it came out because of how garbage it was
It’d need to lose the R530Fs as well. MTI RADAR and decently agile SARH missiles against chaffless planes (That it would see frequently in downtiers) would be decidedly unfun.
I mean 11.3 has ja37c with sky flashes, 4 9ps and a mprf pd radar, all on a platform that’s faster with better flight performance. I think that it can’t be the same br as that
Fair point. I’ve never really tested the agility of the R530Fs that much, they’ve always just been throwaway shots against targets I hope are distracted enough to not see them coming. So I’m not sure how they measure up to the Skyflash/7E-2, kinematics wise.
