AIM9L against 9.0 planes without the flares and chaffs. Definition of fairness and balance

The only option for me left when facing this missile is J out so other guy doesn’t get a kill.
Lovely job of balance there.

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New update changed balance of top tier, who would have known :D

it’s the only place that they can really achieve kills. the IR resistance is so poorly modelled, a match can make a 9L chase even when looking at an afterburner.

RuSsIaN bIaS.

Yep it’s primarily why my friends have all gone back down to early tier jets or ww2. No fun grinding against missile’s you SHOULDN’T EVEN FACE. No fun in only getting kills by head ons or 3rd partying some plane once they’re a bit slower.

Very little fun too be had, plenty of frustration. As a player who might be considered an orca in terms of financial spending for this game Gaijin REALLY needs to look at this 8.7-11.3 range and make some adjustments because paying customers like myself stop paying when the fun stops and there is little fun too be had getting shot down by missiles you got no chance against.

If they don’t want to do adjustments just give every plane minimum amount of chaff/flares to give them a chance against such situations. OR when certain planes are in downtiers have certain missiles restricted to that downtier. Their plane performance is still a huge advantage, let that be the advantage, not this easy point and click vulture playstyle currently destroying any fun for the early tier jets.

And how old kings such as F-2 Sabre and CL-13A Mk.5, Hunter F.1 fallen.

Yeah Aim9L’s slaughtering migs with no countermeasures from 5km away is russian bias ^_^

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hard cope

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Well, if in 8.x to 9.x, only subsonic aircraft with only about AIM-9B/AIM-9E missiles are allowed to be in the BR range there, we can go back to the days when dueling skills were actually needed, as they used to be.

Aim9L is a pain at the BR range, I’m playing French tech tree and know how to outmanoeuvre aim9L. Head straight at the A-10 at 1,500m to missile pull back hard and roll. Most fighter aircraft can pull this off. 30g missile would come close but not hit you. Works almost every time 👍🏻

That’s only if you’re within that minimum range. If the A-10 can get a lock and launch it from 2km or beyond there’s no outpulling it. Best best bet is to just keep a missile primed towards it and shoot at his AIM-9L as soon as it comes off. You waste a missile but you remain alive.

Also since this was necrobumped, I’ll point out that even after the decompression and moving all-aspect attackers up they’re still a regular issue for flareless 9.3-10.3 flareless jets.

Same thing for R-60M, which is found at the same BRs as AIM-9L.

No flareless plane should ever have to face any of these.

Tbh I think ahistorically giving some planes flares is honestly something gaijn should seriously consider, especially if they are high enough BR to face all-aspects.

Maybe on vehicles that could realistically carry them, yep.

For example, F-4E (Early) has no business facing AIM-9Ls and R-60Ms without flares… but it can’t go lower, because then you will have it facing subsonics.

I mean, Gaijin already arbitrarily gives unhistorical munitions and equipment for balance, may as well do this too.

But the root cause of the problem remains to be compression. Air and Ground should be decompressed up to 15.0 at this point.

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