Here’s what happened to me last game.
Enemy mig 15 dogfighting friendly F3H-2. I am about 7km away and fire my 7C while maintaining lock on mig15. Lock drops momentarily after firing, I reacquire lock on mig15. I check weapon cam and can see the missile perfectly tracking and impacting my teammate and not the mig im currently locking. How is this even possible? I never once locked my teammate. I have tried replicating it but every time i drop lock or switch lock the missile stops tracking and self destructs. Sensor view replay doesn’t clarify. Am I dumb or cursed? Somebody please clarify what happened.
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It’s because of how certain SARH missiles work. The aim-7C for example, goes for the target with the strongest radar signature in the aircrafts radar view, and not what you are currently locking.
Most other SARH missiles will behave this way too, so you’ll need to be careful when launching them near teammates, especially in a headon/at close range.
When this happens, just unlock whatever you are locking to prevent a TK.
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Thank you for the hasty and insightful reply
without a clip, ill assume what happened was the mig15 was too slow while the f3h2 wasnt, and your radar chose a target with a faster closure rate, eg: your teammate.
this is a notorious problem with early radars, and generally you should refrain from launching any aam’s when teammates are near, unless you have clear path to the enemy, yeah missile tks are rare, but they can happen!
That doesn’t make any sense as far as I understand missiles in this game.The missiles follows what you’re locking, they don’t have their own radar. They follow what you lock. Following the strongest radar signal would imply it’s a ARH missile. If you’re locking something, it will be guiding to what you lock.
Your explanation goes against everything I’ve known to this point. I’ve never had a SARH decide to go after a target that wasn’t locked.
He likely just locked his teammate and doesn’t realize it.
Then you are inexperienced or not paying attention, and everything he said is correct. It’s not that the missile has its own radar… it’s that it has its own SEEKER that is INTERPRETING what it wants you to do based on various returns, and if the missile mistakenly sees another illuminated target it might swap
I am about 7km away and fire my 7C while maintaining lock on mig15. Lock drops momentarily after firing, I reacquire lock on mig15.
This isn’t supposed to happen. Aim-7 non P variants should reset to a neutral position upon lock fails (notice: lock fails, as in losing lock altogether, not locking onto a chaff) and blow itself up after 3 seconds, even after relock (it lacks DL)
More reliable but not guaranteed. ARHs choose their own targets (so does SARHs) but your radar is stronger than the onboard seeker on ARH so the chance to TK is lower.
Just don’t use the AIM-7, it’s a completely weakened missile.
Yeah it was designed for bombers
I believe pulse SARH missiles act a little differently as they pick up any radar signal from the origin plane including search radar, at least for terminal guidance, which most SARHs can do on their own anyway
No one has used Bombers in the game for a long time. In general, the AIm-7M is a pretty good missile in DCS.
In War Thnader it was also not bad, I had an excellent rating on the F-4C Phantom. But now it’s just a toothpick.
On the bright side. The AIM-7C managed to kill something.
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Man fuck you, I was asking for somebody to clarify and not bug reporting. Ion_Protogen came with the perfect reply and the thread could’ve just been locked after that. It is not like it’s super easy to find this info.
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The game’s code made SARHs work as ARHs that needs a launcher radar lock. As long as you keep the lock with your plane, the SARH can keep being an ARH going towards what he himself sees.
The missile doesn’t know what you’re locking the instant that it flies off the rails. It has one half of a radar. Just the receiver. Think of your radar as being a big flashlight beam. It needs to keep the target illuminated, but your radar illuminates a lot more than just your desired target. Hopefully the desired target is the one that shines the brightest.
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Skill issue. The AIM-7F and M are some of the best SARHs in the game. Only the 27ER really eclipses them.
The Sparrow yearns for the teamkill
Ah, that’s way better explanation than “SARH does what it wants” above