this is for french mains mica really no need nerf becaus aim 120 way better in long range…
Mica is worse then R-77 IMPO… just not it they need to rework it…like AIM-120 is sooo much more consistent and deadly
Can’t believe you shoot with so bad Launch parameters then complain on how bad your missile is.
1st video:
Your plane is flying under 600km/h true speed,…
You’re at 5000m altitude,…
You’re shooting DOWNWARD,…
2nd video:
Your plane is flying under 800km/h true speed,…
You’re under 2000m altitude,…
Due to being lower your missile used Lob trajectory on their own (at least one good point)
So to resume both your videos, you made your missiles fight for:
Energy → engine push is lost in order to gain energy you didn’t gave it before launch
Drag → lower altitude = dense air = more drag
Trajectory → you made the missile change path right after launch so it can correct to target,… not even using the Lobing style shoot (1st vid) most Fox-3’s max ranges should benefit from.
Don’t claim AIM-120 is worse when you shoot randomly.
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Every missile has different strengths and weaknesses, and range is definitely in the AIM-120 strength category. That said, all I saw in the videos was very bad launch parameters making the outcome of missiles not reaching their target all but assured.
Your examples were all user errors.
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Aim-120 is the better at medium to long range but the typhoon is hamstrung with radar issues. Hopefully fixed soon.
MICA is the best short to medium range missiles and is deadly with the AESA Radar.
Both missiles are underperforming and need buffs
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mig-15s are very common enemies of the rafale is seems
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A mica wouldn’t hit at 25km and double that launch speed
You don’t even own the Mica and try to make a point, but an AMRAAM coming even close to that Mig 15 in the second video with such poor launch condition kind of makes your point moot
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now what is wrong all miss? again no enought speed?
Nope, not enough speed for a 25-30km shot…
And that’s not the only problem with your launches.
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so mach 1 + speed not enought?:D and its 17 km shot
Ever heard of how Datalink work in-game?
you’re in SRC PD mode,… you should be using a TWS one (Radar)
all are in the names:
TWS - Track-While-Scan
SRC PD - Search with Pulse Doppler filter
so you basically said to your missiles:
“the target is here, now don’t use Datalink to refresh informations, and guide yourself on the last know interception point you knew 25 km before.”
Of course AIM-120’s wouldn’t be able to track, neither does MICA-EM in such condtions, as the target is moving out of the last known interception point !!!
Stop playing Fox-3 if you can’t learn the single shit about how to use such missiles.
a Fox-3 internal radar works only at ranges of 16km maximum, but before you’re missile is even there the target is 2 km away from interception point.
God,… i just saw your mistake on third Video, but that was the same reason in all videos.
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You were under mach at the time of your first launch, and barely above for the subsequent launches.
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Range was 23km on first launch.
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Subsequent launches were all at notched/cold targets.
Honestly, it’s like you’re purposely giving your missiles the worst launch conditions possible.
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the problem is existant but the worst is that he don’t use Datalink feature
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You know, I didn’t even look at that part of it all, just the glaring issues with the launches themselves.
As I said, he’s setting them up to fail on purpose it seems.
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yeeah that’s what i thought too at 1st., but i noticed the problem on last Vid, then checked the 3 of them to see same user-mistake.
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The radar literally tells you if the missile is in range.
On the right hand side of the radar, you have a number of lines. Those arent random.
The Short line at the top is the absolute maximum range the selected missile has under the current conditions (factoring both your launch conditions and the targets direction of travel.)
The long line is how far away the target is.
The Box is the LSZ or Launch success zone. With the long line within this box, the target cannot kinematically defeat the missile
the short line at the bottom is the minimum range of the missile. (far more important for missiles like Skyflash DFs, but rarely an issue for an AMRAAM)
So long as your long line is between the 2 short lines then it should have enough energy to hit the target, so long as the target doesnt change direction significantly. Fired within the LSZ and the missile should hit regarldess of what turns the target might make except the most extreme. (of course doesnt mean the missile cant be defeated by either Multipathing or Notching/Chaff)
If you look at your second shot. The missile was never going to hit and the radar told you that much.
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It did hit, just didnt kill for some reason, I did have something similar earlier, so not sure what is going on, but I think thsi might be a test flight issue as I havent had any problems in actual matches
That’s how you do it:
Missile: AIM-120A
Targets :
Circling MiG-15’s with a speed of about 780 km/h (average)
Radius of the circle is about 3 km
Launch parameters:
1st missile :
42 km range from target
Initial Altitude : 8550m
Initial Speed : 1243km/h IAS (true airspeed) (above/nearly above Mach 1)
2nd missile :
34 km range from target
Initial Altitude : 8140m
Initial Speed : 1380km/h IAS (true airspeed) (about Mach 1.15)
Results:
1st missile is passing by the intended target at 3.4 km behind because Mig-15 is “going cold” when missile arrives on target.
2nd missile kill on the Circling MiG-15 (“Hit”, but damage control crashes soon after end of video)
Appreciations:
Should be possible with similar configuration of launch parameters with EF-2000 AIM-120B
Notice that at no time, i have any sort of forced lock onto my targets, so i remainned “invisible” to most RWR
80km range shots would be possible for a Mach 1 target flying straight towards me.
Taunt: i dare you to do the same with a MICA-EM in game
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Mica is my favourite fox3, Aim 120 my least favorite but they do outrange their peers. PL12’s are probably the best in versatility, good range and still good maneuverability for HOBS
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