AGM114Ls The US Fire and Forget Hellfire We dont have

There you go.

We are now here:

And what credible argument do you have about this?

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Am i wrong though? Saying the US is the best nation is indeed delusional.

Here.

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AGM-114L is the weakest possible FnF AGM option for multiple nations, not just the US. Gaijin decision that MMW will not be modeled and that a reasonable placeholder for it is also unacceptable has left at least 2 nations helis (if not probably more like 5 or 6 nations) in a rather underperforming state. The Hellfire is a decent AGM for 10.7/11.0, but rather lack luster at 12.0 compared to stuff like the Vikhrs or FnFs like the Spike.

Even looking beyond helis. The Brimstone nations are rather majorily hamstrug by the lack of MMW modeling. Even the soviets have MMW weapon options iirc.

They need to model MMW in one form or another, they cannot maintain their “burying their head in the sand” approach they have currently adopted.

This is a simple fact.

Given the current state of top tier SPAA vs CAS. Its not all that surprising other nations want stuff that is better. Soviets have been dominating with both fixed wign CAS, Rotary CAS and SPAA for a while now and the only logical route forward for mutliple nations, US especially to get anything better is MMW

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Every nation that isn’t USSR would get 114Ls, depending on how they decide to apply their own rules.

But then USSR wouldn’t be the only nation with a PF helicopter ATGM… Oh wait…

Also with the new AAs they plan to add next update is more than a good decision for them to add a better AGM to various nations.

Yes, you are wrong.

And yes, usa tech tree is being hand holded through almost ALL BRs. There is literally almost no BR without any undertiered vehicle.

It would. Im hoping that if nothing else, the new SPAA will enable the Typhoon to at the very least get SAL-Brimstone 2s.

But at the moment, most nations are despeate for something to just counter the KH-38MT with and finally put an end to the soviet handholding theyve had over the last year+

You still did not say anything at all, also the topic is about new hellfires to US in which you said “More handholding stuff to US”

Tell what are these stuff that the US got that makes it unbalanced and doesn’t deserve new stuff?

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Had nothing better to do, so I plotted the area around a stationary target that’d need to be empty for the AGM-114Ls seeker to resolve it for a couple of distances/stages in the flight path. Rayleigh criterion as limit, as before.
Altitude (and resulting angles) and flight time based on the flight profile of a 7 km horizontal distance, 100 m vertical distance AGM-114K launch.

Spoiler

AGM-114K flight profile used as baseline:

Domination, Battle of Hürgen Forest (AGM-114 coming in from straight east):


Battle, Fulda (AGM-114 coming in from NE):

Obviously doesn’t account for uneven ground, but it should be good enough to give an idea of what we’d be looking at.
Doesn’t actually look quite as horrible as I imagined, especially along the minor axis of these ellipses. The major axis is quite bad, but you’d also expect most movement along that axis (at least as long as the heli spawns are roughly in line with the ground spawn points), so speed filtering might help the most there.
It would still be very situational I think, and if you’re not careful you have a high chance of hitting teammates.

just static in the test drive

Yea… Atleast u still have IOG lmao. For time being u can just point a little bit further so IOG drift will be more accurate

But yea as always gayjin completely ignores “crictical performance” bug reports instead they focus on some useless bug fixes

I really hope that they remember the AGM114Ls and add them to the game since they’re planning to add new shiny SPAAs, if they dont then why would people even bother to spawn a Heli with slow and old Hellfires, it would just be a free kill instead i would just leave the match.

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Good?

Laughs in Chinese with even slower AGMs,tho i also want the AH64E with 179s so i can also get my Z10M with BA21 and CM502s

To give some credit, they make up for it in a significantly longer lasting sustainer which makes them a lot more accurate >=5km than the hellfires

they are slower at close range but iirc for over 5km or so they have less time to impact and at almost all ranges are more agile right before impact so they can actually make last minute corrections

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Wrong the highter initial speeds of the hellfire still gives advantage over the BA10 and if you are engaging targets beyond the 5km no matter what weapons they give you will be horrible…

You dont use neither beyond 5km…they aint Vikhrs,and the higher initial speed of the hellfire still gives more advantage

You sacrifice 4 seconds and in return you get a much more agile missile that can deal with moving targets and target acquisitions.

Again, this is not to say one is straight out better than the other. Both has it’s advantages and disadvantages.

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