The L is an ARH variant right ?
to be fair i was kind of opposed to this variant’s introduction, seing how UHT was a bit of an exception with drawbacks to compensate for the pars 3 (namely the absence of chin gun, pars3 being somewhat unreliable, and tiger uht being able to only carry 8 of them)
now that the spike is being added on the french tiger and italian one however, that would be justified imo.
after 4 months? After 2 weeks without an update you can drop all hope, that post aint seeing the light of day every again, nor is any other post regarding hellfires
I read a source stating how the target reacquisition works. Basically since the seeker is on a gimble, it is always looking at the laser even when it’s in a climb, if that laser is lost, it’ll head to the direction the seeker is pointed at.
I’ll try to find it again
I rage quit after dropping 2x Hellfire II on top of EACH crew compartment on 2 different Leo2A6 turrets only to have it do breach damage and set them on fire.
How does 20lbs of TNT Equivalent not overpressure the hell out of the crew on the other side of the 20mm of armor? It’s a rocket powered MASSIVE HEAT warhead…
HEAT based ATGMs are hardcapped to either 20 or 30mm of Overpressure penetration depending on if they are tandem or not.
For HE, overpressure damage is calculated when a shell fragment from an explosion hits something inside of the vehicle, proving that explosion got inside of it. This leads to high-yield explosives nearly always taking out a vehicle in a single hit, due to the shockwave being able to move around frontal armour and to hit the entirety of the crew that way.
HEAT and HESH shells and ATGM can also create overpressure damage but are less effective at it compared to HE ammunition and seem to only affect vehicles when very thin parts of the hull or their critical weak spots are hit directly, with overall armour thickness of hit surface having to be below 15 mm RHA, since their explosive power is directed towards creating special effects (molten jet for HEAT and scabbing for HESH) instead of producing shockwaves. There are exceptions in HEAT ammunition, which can deal overpressure damage through 20 mm (select few powerful HEAT ATGM) or 30 mm RHA (most tandem missiles). Tanks with reasonable amount of armour will not take overpressure damage from HEAT, even if special effect penetrates them easily.
"This mechanic affects vehicles with thin armour negatively, but, unlike with the hullbreak, any tank is potentially vulnerable to overpressure damage. As a result, it makes not only light, but also heavy tanks easier to destroy by using bombs, rockets, big HE shells or artillery strikes. To utilize the mechanic effectively, be sure to aim for a weak spots on the armour, such as roofs, vents, bellies, tank rear and overtrack sponsons, to maximize the chance of a successful penetration.
So by that description, the Hellfire should definitely be over pressuring the turret as it’s hitting 20mm of armor with a Tandem warhead.
So my report got closed as duplicate of this one: Community Bug Reporting System made by @YaBoyCoconut
Good new is that his report was acknowledged, so hopefully one day we might get a fix.
Just bringing this up cuz I didnt notice anyone bring it up yet, but the loft code for the AGM-114 in-game borderline prevents it from properly lofting since;
AGM-114A/B/C/F/K:
AGM-65A/B/D, PARS 3, Spike ER:
Which is, to my understanding, why the PARS 3 and Spike ER tend to fall on targets while the AGM-114 tend to fall BEFORE the target and waste all their energy trying not to hit the ground before striking the target nearly directly
The basic Hellfire-L isn’t in the game, and you expect they will add a more advanced missile that hasn’t even entered production lmao
Yes it was acknowledged, and its been like that for a while. I can only assume nothing is going to change.
Just glad Interfleet got there before KotA or that other one, they like to just close things and tell you it’s working as intended.
At least with this one, I can make a note to check back in 2024 for patch notes regarding AGM-114s
I manage to fire 8 HF at T80 from 4km away and not kill him. 4 of them I guided manualy to at least hit something else (if thet fall in same spot) but this did not help. Milsiles was fire 2 at the time.
Im not sure if it will be of help to someone here, but here is a Hellfire file that talks about hellfire versions, iog, loal modes ect.
I hope this gets looked at. Been noticing this a lot with hellfires, at 7.5km or so theh just fall short of AA that im targeting. Also guidance just turning off after i turn laser off, very annoying. Meanwhile russian helis get proxy fused double speed missiles that ignore smoke :D
why does it state in a lot of places the missile can reach 11km?
Yeah. Vikhr is modelled as a super-atgm that can do everything. Whereas the hellfire, which is much better in real life, is modelled to be rubbish. The top-down attack trajectory isn’t done properly at all.
If they want to nerf Hellfires for balance reasons, sure go ahead. I can see how they would be too OP if they were basically a guaranteed kill with every launch like they are in real life. But don’t make the Vikhr according to Russian military fantasy specs then. It’s still far too good at taking down air targets.
The can be launch from fixed wing aircraft. By launching at a higher altitude and faster speed it improves the missiles range
can the apache fire it like that if it has enough alitude?
Highly unlikely an Apache could generate the altitude or speed to achieve an 11km launch. It’s also not how the Apache or helicopters in general operate.
in theory, also depends on the time-out for the missile. I think they just explode after a certain amount of time/distance. Not sure if that is accurate to IRL? I’ve fired some before and tracked them (in Heli PvE) against a base, and they would have likely hit but was beyond 8km, so didnt