It seems that R73 can’t save SU25bm in 11.3. The R73 is not OP as we wished. In fact, we have a better vehicle in the same BR, the Kurnass 2000, which could take 6 similar missiles and 6* agm65d. So I don’t think just 2 R73 could make SU25BM in 11.3, it should be 11.0 or 10.7.
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If it goes to 10.7 with R-73, then I vote the jaguar Gr1 at 9.7 gets Aim-9L
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10.7 with R-73 would be broken, remember that some vehicles in that BR range don’t even have flares. 11.0 would be fine, even 11.3 is good enough
tbh it should definitly be 11.0. It sits at the same BR than the SU-25T and 39, both equipped with the shkval system, but the BM is really not that great in ground RB. Even if separated BR are not comming, the difference in ground between the normal su-25 (10.0) and the su-25T/39 (11.3) is somewhat justified, even if they should go to 11.0. + 1 BR for the ability to launch Vikhrs and accurately guide KH25 is understandable. But the difference between the stock SU-25 and the SU-25 BM is almost null : 2 R73. (yes, you can equip KH29 and KAB 500 but those can only be effectively be used at close range because of the small zoom). Meanwhile i agree the R73 is the best IR missile in the game right now, it does not justify the +1.3 BR difference with the stock su-25. 11.0 is where it should be.
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From what I’ve seen I’d rather have an R60 over R73, but I don’t have the 25, I don’t have any of them, so I can’t say anything
Why? R-60s have worse range worse flare resist and worse maneuverability.
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Honestly the R73, even in it’s actual state is way better. Better boresight capabilities, thrust vectoring and better range.
Flare resistance isn’t really mattering at the moment, missiles go for the first flare, you still aren’t kinetically dodging an R60, and R60s are just nice to use imo
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Never used it so I can’t say, I just seen videos of people and R73s aren’t hitting that much from what I’ve seen
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this could be because people haven’t learnt the best way to use them idk
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Actually now that i think about it, they should give the SU-25T/39 the R73 and let them at 11.3, while putting the BM at 11.0. It is the best compromise between air and ground capabilities of those aircraft.
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The Su-25BM might have been a good opportunity for adding more advanced AGMs like the Kh29D’s or Kh-25MD’s.
The R73 is still bugged, you cant make any decision on it yet, until it is completly fixed
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my experiences with R-73 the way they’re implemented right now on the Su is while better than R-60 still mediocre
I may add that I think that Fox 2s in general have gotten worse over the last half a year and now I’d compare the current state of R-73 to 9Ls
gotten few hits with them in defensive situations, even fewer than with R-60M on the same airframe but I think the problem is just that the airframe wich after all is why they introduced them to it
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So you’ve gotten hits with them in the exact situation they are meant to be used for on a ground attacker. Sounds like they are working perfectly
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no I think you’ve misunderstood me
I use AAMs on that airframe only in defensive situations and most R-73s launched missed their target and I’ve currently been using them as if they were R-60M
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Ah… still, kinda glad they didnt make them completely OP, was expecting them to one shot everything at 10km and there be nothing you could do about it.
But had best render judgement in a few weeks. Been confirmed they only have “placeholder” guidance systems at the moment.
“The devs are aware of this problem with the missile. At the moment the R-73 has a “temporary” setup autopilot based on a current config. The final R-73 autopilot will have an improved autopilot controller with an angle of attack, and this will solve most of the problems of these missiles.”
that would explain why it acts like a mix between 9L and R60M
then let’s see if they update the Autopilot with the next major update or if we’ll have to wait longer for it
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Man if only all attackers were like this.
Instead, we have 90% of jet attacker players using them as air superiority fighters and stomping people who can’t dodge a 30G all aspect missile.
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