Addition of the Mechanical CCRP SAAB BT-(Model) + Model & Cockpit Update for Couple of aircraft

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Suggestion for the Mechanic CCRP System Installed on the Following planes: B17A,B17B,B18B,T18B,A21A-3,J21RB.
Using the BT-3 Sight with the B17 & Picture of BT-9 Sight in the A21A-3

How the CCRP functions in a attack run:

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Function during Dive Bombing
Kast bombning med BT CCRP

Before the attack, the pilot sets the attack type (level or dive), weapon type, estimated air pressure at the target, wind speed and direction, and the aircraft’s estimated gross weight. During the approach, the gyros are levelled, and the system confirms when the gyros are free. The release button is armed. Using the reflex sight, the pilot aligns the aircraft with the target in level flight at a shallow dive angle, typically between 5-30 degrees. The system confirms that the aircraft is within the sight’s operational range. When the release position is achieved, the release button is pressed, initiating a gentle pull-up. The release button is held down until the pull-up is completed. The sight automatically calculates the correct release timing for the bombs.

Function during Rocket Firing
Raket skytte med BT CCRP
J21RB Shooting rockets Guided by a SAAB BT-9
J21R Firing rockets

Rocket firing is conducted during a dive towards the target. The pilot only needs to stay roughly within the prescribed firing range for each type of rocket. The sight automatically accounts for the aircraft’s speed and dive angle.

SAAB B17A (CCRP: SAAB BT-2 for Bombs.)

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https://youtu.be/XwA1NIG8Vio?t=326
Saab B17 SAAB b-3

B18B & T18B (All) (CCRP: SAAB BT-3 For bombs & Rockets.)

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B18B & T18B Avionics
B18B Pilot positionB18B Inside

A21A - 3 & A21RB (CCRP: SAAB BT-9 for Bombs & Rockets)

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J21 Flygmanual

Translation: “Automatiskt reflexsikte”

"The aircraft (Fpl) is equipped with an automatic reflex sight, which can be used for either anti-aircraft shooting or missile shooting through a switch AKAN-RAKET. A more detailed description is provided in Annex 2.

J21 Flygmanual 6

BT-9 Gunsights

Full translation:

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ANNEX 2 AUTOMATIC REFLEX SIGHT IN FPL 21 A-2 AND 21 A-3

The automatic reflex sight of type K-14 consists of the following units:

reflex sight

control box

AKAN-rocket switch (only in 21A-3)

radio interference protection

voltage regulator

Figure 1. Reflex sight K-14 with accessories

The reflex sight is located in front of the pilot and has two optical systems that provide a fixed and a movable sight picture. The control box, located to the right of the pilot, is used to adjust the brightness of the sight pictures and to select the desired sight picture(s). When using the BT9 bomb sight, only the fixed sight picture is used, and the control box’s adjustment knob is set to FIXED. In the FIXED & GYRO position, both sight pictures are visible, and in the GYRO position, only the movable sight picture is displayed."

Sources

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All sources from the official Arboga Elektronikhistoriska Förening
AEF Website
https://www.aef.se/Avionik/PDF-filer/Dykbombfallning.pdf
BT-9C BT-9 BT-3 BT-2 Bombsikte Saab
J21R A21R SAAB 21R N2
SAAB 17, B17 och, S17BL och S17BS Notis 2
B18, B18A, B18B, T18B, S18A, SAAB18
Reflexsikten Gyrosikten Gyroreflexsikten
https://www.aef.se/Avionik/PDF-filer/Dykbombfallning.pdf
J21 J21A A21A Notis 2

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That’s really cool! I had no idea such things were possible back then! Since it is historical, I see no reason not to add it. +1

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Just means they’ll go up 3 to 4 BR’s for ground

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Think of it working just as the A21A-3s bomb CCRP works, its good but not really game breaking. The only difference would be rockets that could be fired further away.

These CCRPs need some setup to work, if you have experienced the A21A-3 CCRP it would function similarly, point your nose at the target, set the target, pull up, fly in a line while holding the release trigger, armament drops/fires. just continue flying in a straight line. The only bonus you get is lower risk runs. However using the CCRP would really work on moving targets as you would need to try and lead it or just abandon the CCRP and dive bomb it.

The only bonus is the rocket function, since you are in a dive anyway.

I mean the B17 would maybe go to 3.0 since they would just be able to do 1 bomb per run. or it would stay at its br.

The B18s & T18s would however remain at around their current br since their capabilities wouldn’t improve all that much.

The only aircraft that would benefit greatly as i could see it currently is the Jet powered J21RB, since its speed would allow it to get in and out quick with high precision.

Thats my take on it anyway.

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It wouldn’t matter people would still whine about it.nthats just how the game goes lol

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I remember when alot of players freaked out about the A21A-3 getting CCRP for its bombs. Now i havent heard a peep from anybody since it really didnt make much of a difference.

Reminds me of the Pbv 301, when people was thinking at first that it would be another R3 T20

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Its more like 6 people play sweden and nobody knows about the ccrp function

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Yea, when i use it you can really only use it with the one 600kg bomb since its the only 80% chance kill, for anything with armour.

Also the CCRP is just fun to bully SPAAs with

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Im more of a rocket person myself

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Yea the rockets are pretty good too, im just bummed the stripped the left to right sequence on it.

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They won’t even give them ejections seats so I doubt they will give them ccrp but it would still be cool

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+1 becasue I like the CCRP on the a21a3. IM pretty sure that im one of the like 5 people who knew about it and im all for it that stuff like this gets added. Also things like the automatic mode of the He111 too if that were ever to be suggested.

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Thats different, this wont need a real visual/animation. The only issue would be to have to model the sight module into the cockpit. But seeing as the A21A-3 does have it, just not in 1st person for some reason

They have the model, but ita probably just not detailed rright now