Adding additional HQ11 launching vehicle or remove BUK extra vehicles

That some can include Israel, afterall there are two countries that have no multivehicle sam and two that have no 13.0 CAS.

But it can function as a single vehicle be it with a huge issue. That is the point here, in principle both can be added singularly but Gaijin chose to add the way more OP BUK as multivehicle SPAA compared to the HQ-11.

That is gov intervention mostly. Back when mysterious valley came out WT got stream banned for a whole while and I think Gaijin learnt from their mistakes. Although from a humanitarian pov PLZ GAIJIN do not add VT4 to Japan, that is gonna be a war crime.

At this time your point is well justified, however back track a bit then the fact that it’s same BR as say IRIS-T it’s hilarious. A couple of fix happened including data link and AHEAD was added and the missile was fixed significantly although I would still argue it is far from IRIST level efficiency thus the BR separation. The vehicle is also one that looks much better on paper since the trajectory… you’ll need to see for ur self but god it climbs.

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Yeah, because initially you can’t even successfully lock a drone with fb10 for a long time, did you ever mentioned that

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it needs mentioning because??? Initially when SLM came out you were able to break DL by dropping a bomb, or firing a Zuni or a missile. When elde came out and still until now the missile with seeker shut off and miniscule FOV can get flared. Tansamkais radar is still the least effective radar ive ever played.

What are you even on about at this point. Initially has no meaning to whats being discussed here.

First of all i didn’t claimed that is fair secondly makeing discussion in this way claiming racism you going nowhere.

No it’s not it’s PESA radar for locking target if there is nothing to lock it won’t work there is no search mode.

I dont disagree that when CSSA5 dropped it was pretty sad. But that has changed and right now, because we are talking about right now, it is an SPAA system that i cannot afford to ignore when im doing CAS. Outside of LDIRCM helis but that is a completely whole different can of worms that doesnt need to be adressed here, and its not like its just the chinese CSSA5 that suffers from LDIRCM.

Some simple case, type 99 was 7.5s reload time for long time, meanwhile similar structure t72 all 7.1.
As the other said Chinese is a major group here and Gaijin favours, why it still exists over years, where every Chinese blaming it received “Not a bug”

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Play it if you think its strong
Your record shown youve never played any, how should the others even trust you

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It’s also a TWS not hard lock. But I agree HQ-11 is intended and not BUK to be used in a single vehicle config. Although there is a all in one system as well.

What I am stressing is when it first came out Chinese player base including me did have a good deal to complain about, FB-10A was not added until the very end of dev server, no DL or IOG on addition, explosive mass was small enough to not kill vehicles, 20G only and no AHEAD. I sort of understand some of their frustration as well since we’ve waited for months for vehicles, and they ended up still being far from competitive.

True although the whole point at least as viewed from forum was that the new SPAA were gonna (to an extent no matter how limited) counter KH38MTs somewhat, but CS-SA5 (also the naming…) can not do that.

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The everything he try to prove is 1>3, comebined all the other systems disadvantages to one “imaginary made up” vehicle and state: all in one system is better in WT. So according to this opinion, BUK remove TAR and additional TEL make it even better, QED.

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And if i correctly remember it had better APFDS.

Yeah just don’t mind that Su-27 and MiG-29 got wrong flight model and trying to bug report it leads nowhere.

nope, check it in game, 3bm60 588 pen, DTC10 577 pen (proved with an leaked official document that is wrong) however I didnt blame any about that at least the reload rate “buffed” to 7.1s

So they fixed huh? J10 still incorrect

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Im afraid your nothing is not a nothing

Buk TELAR radar has a dedicated search mode, and it is in game, just overperforming severely.

Nah, better than 3BM46 but worse than 60.

Same with everyone else, J-10, EF, hornet so on. The issue of FM is annoying AF, since no solid ‘data’ exists except from sekrit documents, and even if public we almost have no way of aligning data except from data mine, so they are worthless anyway.

Was it meant to IRL and was it supposed to be able to actually be used to in this way (I guess it won’t be or be of any evidence but in theory).

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This is not search mode this is TWS lock which is different.

What huh ? They didn’t it’s still and issue.

And long time ago ZSU-23-4 and PGZ09 was on one br is this fair ? Is this makes Gaijin Russophobic ?

I knew you would say that

Autonomous detection, overperforming in game.
In game it is 90x60. Should be 90x20 and then 45x40
Takes 1s to scan whole, should be 5s for the correct volume, or ~7s for in game one.

The TELAR here its even better than TAR, I would rather using the PESA

PGZ09 at that time without AHEAD, -2 elevation angle, less ammo, same BR as gepard

U mean even with wrong flight model, they are still good with powerfull engine and 27ERs and still better than the others, wow
I wonder have you ever played them? show me your KD or should I check it? HMD + 27ER vs. F15A

Should be worse, but Gaijin changes only what they want. And nefring it seems a no no

Well i mean every one is on one level here claiming racism is nonsence.

I can’t even see the video.

And ? Why you telling me this ? You think this can perform solo and bring me data it overperfoms as proof ? Go away.

Still better than ZSU-23-4.

What ? The AL-21 which was completley wrong engine ?

I dont know why that might be a problem, works just fine for me.

I provided real life data about how it should work, isnt that enough of a proof? overperforming is a side note.

Nice idea, but i dont think im going to ;P

simple question
I don’t see why there is such argument.
HQ-11 is fine, but too few ammo, just add launch vehicles is ok, same for SPYDER, maybe SPDER also needs Derby-er but it’s another topic
as for the cannons, it’s not so useful in game and could bring some new problems in controlling, and clearly you can’t have both, so just launch vehicle is fine.
as for the radar problem, I think we don’t need a long range warning radar in game for it.