Which is why they need to do more. Giving the F-4S 9Ls would not make it enjoyable at 12.3. The literal hornet exists here at this BR currently.
Mirage F1 should lose Magic 2 and go to 11.0 or 11.3. The F1CT can keep magic 2 and remain as is.
F-4EJ Kai is doing very poorly atm.
imo ej kai is overtiered
Can’t go to 12.0
true another compressed 12.0/13.0
Yeah, the MiG-23s need their fictional radar nerf removed and all move back up by 0.3.
The F-4S meanwhile should get 9Ls as these were the main missile of the aircraft, and also moved up. But better to remove it. The ultimate US F-4 model shouldn’t be a premium. Give it 9Ls, move it to the TT, and replace it with a 12.0 F-4N with 9Ls.
Hornets are undertiered at its BR…
F/A-18A can go higher BR with current loadouts. I don’t know about F/A-18C Early but, if A model moved up to 12.7BR, they should go 13.0BR with AIM-9Ms because both hornets shouldn’t have same BR.
Probably only TT versions F1Cs because they never downgrade premium jets loadouts.
We asked a lot for removing SRAAMs when Harrier GR.1 comes to the game but, they reject that and confirmed for not downgrading loadouts from premium jets.
Either way, the problem is still remains.
Depends of gamemodes.
1000%
You’d have to send a lot more than just hornet up to make F-4S fun/competitive at 12.3 but yes I agree that the earlier hornets are undertiered.
Yes
Sure, I only refer to air RB
Besides the Hornets, several other aircraft can be sent to higher BRs in current meta.
12.3BR F-16A Block 10 was big mistake and C-S4 should also gets same BR with C-S5.
In ARB, perhaps only F-4EJ Kai and attackers like Harrier GR.7, Mirage 2000D-R1 can justify the BR at this time.
Honestly, I would like to see most aircrafts at that BR range should have better loadouts like Block 10/15 with AIM-9Ms, MiG-21bison with R-77s, F-14s with AIM-9L/Ms, etc but, mostly not possible at current meta.
don’t forget K2K (I forgot about it often)
F-14A can just get 9Ls and nothing will be oppressed by this though. It should already have them as no other 12.7 is left with rear aspects. Same with F-14B, it should get 9Ms.
f14b not having 9ms ia crime
who’s gonna tell this guy that 9P is just 9J for export
The reason I said it was because I didn’t think it used it irl therefore it didn’t make sense to add it.
i’d argue that without Agile Eagle and HMD, it can go 12.0 comfortably without actually being a supreme threat to downtier. That said the APG-66 is really something.
Hell the fuck no. I’d rather have the 4 R73 option and stay in 12.3 than R-77 that will guarantee it getting a BR raise to 12.7/13.0
This is why I said…
If we gets 1.0 or 1.3BR more decompressions, these jets can gets better missiles without breaking other things.
Almost every vehicle should receive a historic and better loadout if we gets certain amount of decompression.
F4EJ Kai would like to disagree, give them 9Ls and theyre on the same page, the F4s even being better because of the hmd
They are already?
I’d argue this is an insane argument.
No, it wouldn’t. EJ Kai is a garbage jet currently with no hopes to succeed due to its highly limited flight platform (it shares its BR with purely gen4s and its matchmaker will never NOT include MANY gen4s in its games).
F-4S and FGR.2 are also just strictly worse by a LOT regarding radar capability… the F-4S is a worse jet.