ADATS, what Gaijin got wrong

This is not a sustainer. I checked with the files and in game. It has only 2s of motor burn, then it starts to slow down, and the tracer, that is the thing seen here, burns to the end of the flight.

Spreadsheet is wrong here.
No sustainer here
17341806289873349953019587045566
And this is the tracer
17341806893992624083030271438139
17341807577759072081208366530485

(it should not have it bdw)

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Thanks. I’ll try to report the burning time, then

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Does MIM146 even reach 7 km ceiling?

Aside from this source, the other one from the manufacturer also says the ceiling is 7 km. More interesting is the intercept range being 10 km, which makes me think that the actual range of the missile should be higher and not limited to 10 km (and also ceiling being 7 km makes it weird that the total range would be only 10 km)

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As of now 10km is all we have. It might be more kinematic wise, but nothing as of now stating it.

Another thing worth noting, is that some sources state intercept, while other say missile range.
In that case it is possible that battery life is a limiting thing. Missile might still have a decent amount of energy, that allows it to still effectively engage targets, but the battery makes it self destruct.

Radar report out of the way
ADATS radar Incorrect
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/rKzfdBhl02Ub

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Hey would the improved and correct radar would be able to track munitions like kh38mt and other guided munitions like the panstir can? Would be a game changer

I do not know anything about that sadly.
At least not directly, I might try to work around it.

looks like it got accepted 👀

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Well done!

What’s changed with tows? They were crap before and top attack was crap. I’m curious what makes them good/fun now.

Ok quite sure a seeker doesn’t emit anything, it’s receiving the light emitted. It may emit some forms of energy, but I’d assume that would be hard to see and/or track.

For radar, sure through clouds. For EO, no chance.
For FLIR, also mostly no. SWIR, yes. Does ADATS have a SWIR payload? I didn’t think so.
The payload on an ADATS is nowhere near as capable as what we have these days and we still can’t see through clouds lol

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Yes we do. Well, it depends on multitude of things, but we do.

The problem now is not “through clouds”.
For IR lock SPAA like ADATS/ASRAD/Stormer HVM. The IR system can’t even lock on target until 3 or 4km just because clouds in the background.
Apparently,Gaijin never created IR system forSPAAs,all IR system is same with TV system of roland in 70s

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I reported the motor burn time: Community Bug Reporting System

I’d like to know the missile speed after 3 seconds in the game. Does it go over Mach 3 in that time? Some sources say the missile reaches Mach 3+ in 3 seconds, which matches the motor action time from the source I used in the bug report

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Great work dude, every spaa player appreciates any little buff we get, i just hope it stays acknowledged.

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Quite sure it goes over it, but I’ll check later

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I’ll report the lack of stabilization in the ADATS when I get home. In real life, the E/O module is stabilized.

Spoiler


a stabilized platform on which the above-mentioned sensors of the EO fire control system are arranged

The stabilization of the sensors (Fig. 6) essentially consists of a servo-controlled inner and outer gimbal. The inner one carries the stabilized platform with the sensors. The outer one carries the housing and isolates the sensor platform from dynamic (vibrations) and other environmental influences and disturbances.
The aiming system is used to position the E-0 fire control sensors on the target and to align the optical axes of these sensors. It includes the stabilized platform, the servo electronics, the tracker electronics, the E-0 module housing and the boresight module.

“Elektrooptik in Flablenkwaffen” by Umberto Somaini from Oerlikon-Bührle AG. https://web.archive.org/web/20240711230409/https://www.hamfu.ch/_upload/Elektrooptik_in_Flablenkwaffen.pdf

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a man in a car with his mouth open and the words " my honest reaction " below him

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Yoooooooooo

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