You present a fair argument. Thing is, an LFP shot will likely kill the entire abrams crew, or force it into crew replenishment (arcade) and fully disable it. The abrams LFP however is much larger and more consistent than many of its adversaries. My positioning and situational awareness could be at fault, but I really can’t find many good hulldown positions when I can get flanked quite easily. The abrams doesn’t even have a plow, which I believe it does on the M1C (I think it’s that one) and the turret basket should go to all NATO tanks to give it more survivability. Top tier is either one shot or multiple shots to take out an enemy. And no, I have not played the T90M. While the 3BM60 is quite bad, the LFP and small driver hatch weakspot are harder to hit than the abrams’ massive turret ring and LFP, and it has a smaller profile so it’s better for hulldown. For the SEP V2 it even has a massive CROWS that can be overpressured. The M1 tanks are very large and aren’t the best at urban combat (in my opinion.) The T90M and Leopard 2A7V both have spall liners, and in real life the abrams doesn’t, so there needs to be something added to the SEP V2 to fix this.
Sorry for the late reply, didn’t look at forums for quite a bit.
That is true. Although soviet tank doctrine is mostly about advancing, not retreating, I do find the T series tanks reverse speeds to be quite miserable. Maybe a smaller buff, doesn’t matter if it’s accurate or not.
Well, we know that Chobham, that formed the basis of the first generation NERA includes a Plastic strike face & backing layer , so I wouldn’t say for certain that it doesn’t exist. It’s just that we don’t know and the limited cross-sections we do have of the M1’s arrays don’t delineate between Non-Conventional, Conventional, and Homogeneous armor and said description is broad enough to include plastics.
Also is it just me or does the quality of the scans, and the reference [PDF page #12] to “Tri-plate” assembly mentioned in the definition of the Special armor make it look like the middle layer is encapsulated, potentially the same way they are as outlined in the Chobham excerpts, which we know are plastic.
Sep V4 probably gonna have an armor upgrade prior to the sep v3 too
m1147 is probably m830a1+heatfs capability and also the obstacle reduction round right?
SEPV4 doesn’t exist anymore. It has been cancelled.
SEPv3 has an undisputable hullandturret armor upgrade from all previous M1A2 models. It is the only model we have definitive evidence of an increase in hull effective armor over its direct predecessor.
M1147 is essentially the replacement for all non-APFSDS rounds the tank would carry.
so, Strv has worse gun and electronics and identical internal armor, though it has greater composite screen coverage on it’s sides, and little bit of armor on its LFP
I heard they added the turret basket to the Abrams, can’t see the dev server as I’m on ps, and no one on YouTube covered it… May I get a confirmation it’s true maybe?
Yeah no, they just made it the horizontal turret drive. Even if it doesn’t wipe your crew, if you can’t move, you’re dead already. Why can’t they just give it separately from the turret ring?
