Erm, that runs contrary to the information given in the manual (linked above). Explosion gases are mentioned, not fires, not burning. This is an English language publication so they would have used those terms if they actually applied.
By way of further explanation - I have read somewhere but need to look up the reference that these blow out panels require a considerably pressure difference to pop. A fire wouldn’t be sufficient to create the overpressure difference to blow them open to the atmosphere. These are after all quite substantial bits of metal that need to be thick enough to provide overhead protection to the ammunition compartment.
The information you have been given and reposted here is incorrect, both from a technical and common-sense point of view.
Yes I did, I wasn’t questioning why, but stating the fact of it being locked so quickly. And the other side of that, if that’s going to be the reason why, a link to the appropriate forum thread should be provided then. I looked up and down the forums before posting, only found this thread. My question was singular in my post, and a simple answer would have been nice. (Not that you are the one that is in a position to make that statement as to why, I am not directing that part towards you.)
That says “hidden by community flags” , not moderators. So it’s hidden until a Forum Moderator handles the flag or you have the option to edit the post before that. You can read more about the forum flag system here: ( Forum Flagging System Explanation )
The flagging system is used by one regular poster in particular to flag everyone’s posts he doesn’t agree with. I would respectfully suggest that is the real problem.
If that is the case, and the flags are falsely applied, then that individual will be handled by the Forum Moderators as false flagging is against the rules.
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"Blowout panels don’t protect from explosions of a large part of the rack. It may be possible to survive a shell or two exploding, but certainly not multiple. They only protect fully from the fire of the ammunition cooking off. "
That isn’t what the manual says. It is also incorrect.
Besides, if one or two shells explode then the others will go as well sympathetically… The internal sleeves they sit in are not blast-proof, else they’d effectively funnel the explosive force into the fighting compartment.
Your source needs to make their mind up. A blow-out panel either allows for the explosion of the contents of the rack or it doesn’t. The public data says that the former is the case.
You can even hear in the video above from the OP, multiple shells bursting inside the ammo rack, and then combined with the video of the fighting compartment, withstanding each one. I don’t understand going to this length to make a change when there are so many other problems with the Abrams, this is the one that gets selected.
So from my testing. The moment you have atleast ONE apfsds round in the blow-out pannel you will not be killed. The moment however your turret is loaded with nothing BUT heat-fs it will explode. I’ve tested it on the M1A2, M1A1, M1A2 SEP, M1A2 SEPV2, Type 90
If you are so adamant on your version of reality not the actual footage captured from real life, SHOW US THE SOURCE where it clearly states that it only protects from a few rounds cooking off and the so called BLOWOUT plane protects only from fires.
Here is the problem, this is poor moderation, the mod refuses to provide evidence and has not passed on the evidence provided. Not all mods are bad, most are great. But, Gajin needs to do better here. The whole point of the system is if you provide a source in the format they ask for and it is accurate, gajin will listen. They are failing theyre own system.
well is 10 not enough?
smin you should tell them to either set the limit of explosion higher or remove it
e.g like
say 30 apfsds and 5 heat would not kill
but 20-30 heat would kill
there should be a clear and concise limit for this
one of the bug report give a video and the number of round is 24 apfsds and 10 heat, which the blast door fully resist to its capability and blow out panel works
also blastdoor/= blowout panel
If this is the case, is this also applied to apfsds darts in hull storage? Is it now possible to just simply use fpe to put out ammo hits rather than the two normal outcomes of black ammo disappearing or instant kill ammo rack explosion
Sorry Smin, I may sound a little annoyed at times with this decision, but there needs to be sources here for this decision. Remember this, with the DU hull inserts. It was a perfect response to the community [Development] Hull Armor of the M1 Abrams - News - War Thunder
You’ll need to do this type of devblog again for this, as the response here has no evidence to back up it’s claim. In fact there is video evidence refuting it
