The Kh38 missile is a new generation of air-to-surface missile developed by Russia. It will replace the Kh25 air-to-surface missile currently in operation by the Russian Air Force, and may also replace the Kh29, mainly used to combat ground armor, surface ships and ground affairs. After about two years of secret testing in 2012, the Russian Air Force officially received the first batch of KH38s in December 2012. There are Su-34, Su-57, Su-25SM, Su-35S, Su-30SM2 that can be equipped with this missile.
The Sukhoi Design Bureau is actually just an aircraft design bureau. There are two factories actually responsible for producing Su-27 fighter jets. The first is the Komsomol-on-Amur Aircraft Manufacturing Plant, which is the factory that provides Su-27SK and Su-30MKK to China; the other is the Irkusk Aircraft Manufacturing Plant, which is the factory that provides Su-30MKI to India. As a result, two technical routes were formed, the Su 30MK of Komsomolsk and the Su 30M of Irkut.
Due to Russia’s domestic economic problems, each factory is now basically responsible for a series of production and subsequent upgrades. The Komsomolsk factory is responsible for the Su-35, Irkutsk is responsible for the Su-30SM, and the Novosibirsk factory is responsible for the Su-34 to ensure that every factory can survive.
As for the Indian Air Force’s Su30mki on the technical route of the Irkusk plant, the actual purchase of the first batch of Su30mki was actually a small improved version of the Su27UB such as the addition of oil pipelines, also known as the Su30K. After the actual assembly of the Su30mkl in 2002, the aircraft were returned to Russia. Subsequently, the Su30K was sold by Russia to the Angora Air Force. Then in 2003, Malaysia began to order the Su30mKm, which was a model that improved Western avionics from India’s Su30mKi.
India began purchasing Su 30mKi in 1996, and Russia first delivered Su 30K. In 2000, India and Russia reached an agreement that Russia transferred Su 30mKi production lines and technical licenses to India, but it was not until 2002 that it began to deliver Su 30mKi to India. Subsequently, India was unable to fully absorb Su 30mki technical capabilities, and subsequently purchased Su 30mKi from Russia multiple times between 2007 and 2010. Moreover, India has repeatedly proposed to upgrade the Su-30mki in service and replace its radar, engine and other equipment. But until 2025, the Su 30mKi in India has not been upgraded.
In 2012, Russia used the technical foundation of the Su-30MKI to improve the new Su-30SM, and both radar and avionics have undergone a large number of changes.
Another technical route on the Communist Youth League started with the Su-27sK purchased by China in 1996, and began to deliver the Su-30mKK to China in 2000. At that time, China’s procurement required Russia to upgrade to a larger range, a larger bomb payload, and a higher service life.
Then, in 2004, China delivered the Su-30mKK2. China required Russia to upgrade fire control, radar and a large number of electronic systems, and focused on strengthening the Su-30mKK2 air-to-ship capabilities. Subsequently, this type of fighter plane was modified to be the Su30mk2v model exported to Vietnam in 2004. Vietnam required improvement of the fire control system, changing from mainly air-to-sea attacks to mainly air-to-air attacks. The other was the Su30mk2 AmV exported to Venezuela in 2006. Venezuela does not require air-to-air attacks to be mainly based on Vietnam, and its configuration is basically the same as that of China’s Su30mK2.
In 2002, Russia’s Su27SM was introduced in an improved model that absorbed technology from Russia’s Su27sK and China’s Su30mKK. Its engines, electronic systems, and radars were upgraded, and it was equipped with a fire control system of the same level as the Su30MK2 fighter jets exported to China. Therefore, the Su-27SM fighter jet can theoretically be the same as China’s Su-30MK2 fighter jet.
In 2007, Russia’s Su-27sm2 was improved from Su-27sm. The export number was Su-35Bm, and the Russian self-use number was Su-35S. In 2013, China purchased Su-35SK from Russia. This batch of Su-35SK has the same configuration as the Su-35s used by the Russian military.
Then based on the technical feasibility of equipping the KH38, the Malaysian Su 30mkm is actually not feasible.
Given the KH-38MT is nothing but a mockup and Brochure. Never actually existed IRL. I think we are waaaay past the point of having issue based upon exports.
I just cant wait for Soviet mains to get a taste of their own medicine
Let them have the KH38, I wouldn’t want us players representing the USSR to be seen as crybabies, leave that to the other side rs
You know this isn’t going to change absolutely anything, right?
Kh-38s can be used on one of the newer Migs, Su-34s, and there are many claims that Su-30Ms can use Kh-38s.
Of course, if Su-30MKM can’t use them, neither can SM or SM2.
Su-30MKM we have in-game is after the 2019 upgrade program.
The irony is when I was looking for that Kh-38 on Su-27/30, I found a Kh-38 on a Mig.
It’s not about Kh-38MTs bc they should be added and probably all knew about it, same with double racks for R-77-1. By about making another TT which mostly relies on subtries other then domestic vehicles.
And about that Kh-38MT… Here is a photo of a seeker of it(on the left with title “Izdeliye 65MT”). It exist but that’s not the problem in war thunder. The problem is adding it to aircraft which never ever carried them.
Like the Su-30SM, Su-34, SU-25SM3?
Su-34 is capable of using Kh-38ML which can be seen on videos from ukrainian war, most like can carry other missiles of this family but i don’t have any reliable sources or photos.
Su-30SM, Su-25SM3 was never ever tested with them AFAIK. And guess what their primary source is brochure of Kh-38M from like 00’ claiming that it is possible to integrate them into Su-25, Su-30MK etc
EDIT: especially to export planes which for sure cannot use them
Picture doesn’t prove anything looks like a mockup
wonder who company in their right mind would present a military seeker to export just to not existe ?
The picture doesn’t properly show the seakerhead. smh
better than non-exist at all
It’s equal to nothing as it doesn’t show anything of value…
ok. its not like something will change
Another mockup photo that doesn’t show the seaker just the gimbal
It’s quite good compare to what was posted earlier on the forum. You can see all important parts of it.
it’s laser one…
No that’s a gimbal not a laser…
like i said. you can show me whatever you like. the dev had acces to better proof for sure. they are know to have person to do research in persone at the factory.
from the mock up of MLE