The Harrier GR. 1 has been unusable for years. Does Gaijin not have enough player “statistik” to move it down in BR? The Harrier GR. 3 in the same BR has access to better missiles and countermeasures.
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It’s very good, still my favourite jet to play just I never see anyone playing it to its strengths. I’m mediocre pilot in jets and I’ve carried many a battle in this plane.
9.3 SRAAM carrier?
I’m sorry but, hell no, especially BR was decompressed.
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Without SRAMS its an 8.3-8.7 airframe Skyhawks have more performance than a Harrier GR.1
SRAMS have been nerfed and hammered by Gaijin and every jet it faces now only has to drop 1 flare to make the missiles worthless.
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How Gaijin nerfed SRAAMs?
As far as I know, it was dodgeable with single flares when CM was implemented in the game.
Also, most AAMs in that BR blankets are flareable.
I guess OP want to see clusterfuck just like when Hunter F.6 and Harrier GR.1 cames in the game.
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The Harrier GR.1 is such a bad plane that I was traumatized. I never wanted to buy premium jets from the store again.
Real SRAAM should have the range of an AIM-9 it doesnt
Then they are now at a BR where everything has Flares and you have an incredibly weak airframe.
the 30mm Adens are pain to use at this point they should just remove SRAAMS and lower the BR of the Hunter F.6 and the Harrier GR.1
My Hunter F.1 doesn’t.
Same goes with my beloved MiG-19. Also, F-100A/D, EEL, etc.
ADEN/DEFA is one of decent guns in Jet RB and it is not low velocity guns just like MiG15 guns and MK 108.
Your MiG 19 and F100 are 600mph faster than a GR.1 Harrier, the Harrier needs to be within 100m - 50m for SRAM to be useful.
Hunter F1 is just sad right now
Harrier has them mounted on a belly mount on an airframe with poor nose authority. DEFA and ADEN are great on the right aircraft Mirage 3 as an example
…and for me it was the aircraft I ground most of the Brit tree with, and still love to fly it (in Sim though).
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OK and?
If they tried to kill you, you can reverse and push I win button that is called SRAAMs. You earned kills.
I don’t have any issues for aiming harrier guns so, I don’t see your points.
You still has same guns and it doesn’t have awful flight models like EEL.
Yep and the MiG 19 can just murder you before you try viffing.
The point trying to be made is they balanced this airframe on that one part trick.
SRAAM hasnt been an I win button missile for a long time, I thought it was finally understood and accepted that the missile is pretty weak and has several bugs/issues under consideration by gaijin alongside Red Top which finally got work done to make it useable?
What I don’t get is why most discussion here is about that aircraft’s performance as a fighter.
It is a ground attacker after all… Gr.1, not F.1… ;-)
How it is weak rn?
I mean, when I played Hunter F.6 last time, didn’t see any difference its performance from when Harrier GR.1 was broken overpowered.
As far as I know, with the exception of the IR signature nerf in 2019 or early 2020 and the AAMs drag nerf generally, SRAAM’s performance has not changed.
That’s because Jet RB is literally fighter meta and everybody use decent attackers as figheters.
There are reasons why decent player doesn’t bring bombs when they play A5C, Gen2 Harriers, A4N etc.
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Well, its BR is based around its fighter capability right? Because its ground attack capability is that of an 8.7 plane really. Makes it fair to judge it based on its fighter ability if that is the case.
Perhaps when gaijin implement ground RB BRs for more planes we will see a better niche for the GR1 with a lower BR for ground attack.
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Meta massive shift and the changes in the missiles capabilities weakening its chasing capability. You cant even hit the mig 15 from behind with a 1.5km shot if you had to lose any speed trying to “viff” attack it or just turn in behind it for example, GL trying to do that to a plane flying at over mach 1.
When GR1 was overpowered, it was pretty much the fastest accelerating/top speed bar mach plane out there bar a couple of exceptions and had an air spawn allowing them to fly to 6km and dive down on enemy formations taking off and still trying to gain speed with a qwasi all aspect capability which is now gone too.
I think the wiki sums it up well
Cons:
Very short range, missiles fired outside of 1 km are unlikely to hit unless you have a notable speed advantage over your opponent
Cannot hit anything reliably, due to its 3.2 second guidance time
Relatively small explosive mass means hits are not always fatal (at least immediately)
Flares can easily fool the SRAAM due to its high FoV
Likely to lose control if fired at low speed due to thrust vectoring
Personally I rather sidewinder Bs.
BR was decompressed so, it would be fine at its BR if some current 9.3-10.3 jets move to higher BR such as F104A, Hunter F.58, T-2, F8U etc.
Is thats actually? Because I had never faced that issues when I played Hunter F.6 in 3 month ago.
I will play Harrier GR.1 or Hunter F.6 in tomorrow or later because im so tired irl today but, don’t think it is bad as you say.
BTW, I usually shot within 1.2km.
I played Jet RB match when Harrier cames in the game but, it was pretty cracked even before they gets airspawn.
I still remember me and my teammates gets wiped in first few mins by full of Harrier team.
It was next level from CL-13A/F40 Sabre meta or T-2 meta.