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It is a 40g missile. You just don’t know what that means.
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Range is still lacking massively in comparison
Compared to an R-27ET? Certainly. But it’s still the second longest range IR missile you can find at top tier, and more importantly for what I was replying to, much longer ranged then an Aim-9M. It’s not that it has a particularly strong motor, only marginally better then the Aim-9M’s, but the missile has exceedingly low drag.
It is a 40g missile. You just don’t know what that means.
Nah, so, you shouldn’t go off of the statcards, they’re kind of arbitrary and don’t reflect actual turning performance, it’s an upwards maximum which isn’t even always matched in internal stats. More accurately the peak turning of a missile is dictated by it’s PID guidance logic, and from there to a lesser extent it’s fin size and deployment. The AAM-3 only has a slightly more aggressive PID guidance; 0.0021 versus 0.002 proportional term, which generally outlines the peak the missile will turn. It does have a derivative term of 0.008 versus 0.006; roughly how snappy the missile is to sudden changes in direction and some lead characteristics. And for wing size it’s actually smaller then the aim-9Ms, but with more deflection.
So, no, it’s not “40Gs is a lot more then 30”, it’s, “this missile will pull a little bit harder, and is sometimes a bit better off the rail depending on speed.” And it’s not even true for all speeds, as due to stuff about how they accelerate differently the 9M catches up to pulling nearly as well off the rails at higher speed launches. (~mach 1).
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??? The point is that its g-tolerance IS 40g. Y’all (the community in general) desperately need to find out that g-tolerance does not determine agility alone.
That’s literally what i’m saying? Did you actually read what I said?
And everything you said was literally what I was implying
How were you implying that? From this it very much makes it seem like you were arguing with noamax saying that it only pulls slightly more, and not actually 40Gs.
Because you read words, then applied a ton of meaning to them that wasn’t originally present. Suffice to say you should not assume what people mean when they haven’t said what they mean.
“How isn’t it” is generally accepted as a contradictory statement in english, there is no implied reason for it to mean anything other then as normally assumed.
I should not have to explain English to someone on this forum but here goes:
The context of what I was directly replying to, user says "AAm3 “is not rly 40g”
I say: “How isn’t it?” which means I am asking him “how is the AAM3 not a 40g missile”
This means I am saying the stat IS 40g for g-tolerance… because it is…
You then go on to insert the separate idea you created in your head that I was saying the missile “pulls like a 40g missile!!!111” like I’m some plebian who again, still thinks g-tolerance is the predominant factor in missile agility.
Asking someone to explain their statement is not normally used as a method of agreement. Especially when the question is done in an open manner such as yours. You should’ve initially specified upper G-tolerance and not left it ambiguos if you wanted to specify that you were arguing with it as a theoretical upper maximum; Given the discussion so far had been on effective turning performance.
Thanks! you! explained! it! very! well!!!
I tried to be simple, theyre different irl but in game at least theyre the same - AAM-3 is just better
Ik exacly what that means but u dont know whats fin aoa
The fact that u only look at the stat card says it all about u
How do you come to this conclusion? Genuinely crazy
Cuz u said this is a 40g missile
Which is not
It pulls 1 or 2 more gs then 9m
Because the g-tolerance is, in fact, 40g. What do you think this stat means exactly?
G limit?
Like it says?
And how can u tolerance 40gs if u cant reach them?
AAM-3 is best to use on the 15J and 15MJ