Empathy does wonders for more accurate & tactful critiques of the game.
Respecting & empathizing is a good thing for ourselves & the game.
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another please be nice to gaijin post
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That isn’t really what I meant. I said in the post that Gaijin should still be criticised and held accountable. My point is simply that criticism doesn’t need to become personal abuse, whether it’s aimed at staff or other players.
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Respect is earned, not given. If person, through his actions, loses it, that is entirely on him.
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Bringing out AI art and loli BS. Premiums ruining BR’s. Not decompressing and changing 13.0 and many more BR’s what people asked for ages. Still sitting in limbo for 3 years with console transfer and nothing gets done or any information whatsover. Then a developer (Gromvoiny) literaly saying: We are not obliged to make a functional game for console players. Yea i can image people getting frustrated and mad when devs act that way ¯_(ツ)_/¯.
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I think this sums up why.
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I mean they operate based on what devs told them and return output from players. So if they claim stuff like that its mostly because of devs while people like Smin are just doing their job. Hence why critique should be aimed at devs, not mediums.
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Sometimes you have to do that to keep your position in company.
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or more so to the company and creative/commercial direction of it, as the devs are also just trying to get paid and many of them probably have relatively little sway over the actual direction the game takes
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“Sorry mate! I was only doing as I was told!” ceased to be a valid defence in most legal and civil matters a loooooong time ago.
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only when the stakes are much higher mate, nobody has died, this isnt nuremberg, there are no real moral conundrums here
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I understand why people are frustrated when problems remain unresolved or communication feels poor. I’m not asking anyone to forget those issues or automatically respect every decision Gaijin makes.
I think there is a difference between respecting a decision and showing basic civility towards another person. We can strongly criticise decisions, ask difficult questions and hold the company accountable without personally insulting staff or other players.
I also agree that community representatives are often passing information between players and developers, so frustration shouldn’t automatically be directed at the messenger. That distinction is really the point I was trying to make.
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Moral conundrums are all about principles. We’re talking about honesty in this instance.
Someone who is honest won’t think ‘oh well, the stakes aren’t high so I’ll happily lie, cheat or steal this low-value thing - nobody dies so I’m still honest!’
I DEFINITELY wouldn’t want to be have anything to do with someone who basically throws their sense of right-or-wrong based on whether they think they can get away with it…
If my boss asked me to be dishonest - I would in no way be able to claim any immunity from the lie by saying - ‘yes, but my boss told me to say this.’
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youre never going to belive this
honestly and fact are two different things and honesty is generally considered part of most leading ethical principles
actually thats closer to non-maleficence and isnt really part of honesty
but regardless of technicalities i get your point, and still disagree, the CMs are being honest with us about gaijins words, theyre doing their job of being a filter of sorts for what gaijin wants the community to hear, its nowhere near as cut and dry as any part being truth or lie
like i said its not that simple, also youre more than welcome to hold yourself to that standard (this is the internet we have no way to know if youre even truthful about it either, lucky you) but that doesnt mean you have the right to go around freely insulting anyone who doesnt meet your standards
and again its just a video game man, if you have a problem with gaijin show it by not supporting them or even by not playing.
Never gonna happend not enough postive K/D to push the argument forward.
average war thunder fourm comments if you want respect the fourms is not the place to find it if you want help don’t come to fourms either I realized the fourms is mosty the biggest spenders and sweats people in game even act better
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yes I think this PLAYERBASE has lost more respect than the developers through actions which I wont say on the fourms
transfer is never coming back for many reasons almost no games have that its like trying to make a apple game account to a steam account it wont work but on the other hand some games do have the ability to switch platforms a bit but war thunder just isn’t one of those games:( , (problaby removed because Microsoft and Playstation not Gaijin because they need like 30% of Gaijins sales they cant get that if players switch to steam?)
Respect is also granted to a degree by position, title or a group for
various reasons as well. This is generally taught to youngsters as they
are growing up . . . . repsect your Elders(no one does this anymore),
the police, government, service officials and the like . . . you get the idea.
You are right(imho) that repsect is earned in most cases and never
(which has been common over the years) to be “demanded”.
Many associate fear as respect and that is not how it works.
That being said, you should prolly respect the police officer, as a “postion”
but may not respect the “individual”, in lieu of words/actions as you
suggested earlier . . . and yes, you can “lose respect” for someone or
something as situations and circumstances change.
Yes Gaijin does some things that upset some, a lot even, of the players
from time to time . … but you have to realize, no matter what they do,
they will NEVER please everyone . . . ever.
And the same can be said of the player base as a whole, I doubt we
ever see the day we’re all sitting around a campfire, roasting marshmallows
and singing songs together . . . just ain’t gonna happen.
Point being, and I agree with the OP’s sentiment, there’s no good reason
you cannot treat others, players AND Gaijin with basic repsect and
common courtesy and not be a complete jackwagon towards everyone
all the time . . . it’s ridiculous . . . and no need for it as it does no good . .
imho . . . .
just keep it simple and we’ll all be better off . . . seems like
Not that much to ask really . . . .
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Gaijin must earn my respect by giving me a profile icon of a hamster.