Guys we have an accepted bug report and historical documentation that italian F16 ADF carried Aim 120 and Aim9 L-I and was incapable of carrying Sparrows. So When this will be implemented?
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I know its where it should be and how it should be but doing this is just going to make this aircraft a bit redundant tbh. For simulation sake I think it should be as you say though.
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we already have mig29 for 12.7 jet that is top dog but doesn’t have fox3, same with tornado, so i think giving the historical loadout to the f16 should be good to go;
Btw i don’t think it would be redundant as right now the only italian (not hungarian) supersonic fighter with aim120 is the EF2000
the Harrier is not a fighter (nor is supersonic) so it doesn’t count
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First off, it’s the only fuel efficient 12.7 Italy has available.
There is Gripen and Typhoon if you want 13.7 - 14.0 aircraft.
And tying into the first point, Mig-29’s fuel consumption is bad, it doesn’t have a digital RWR, nor AIM-9Ls.
F-16A ADF already has a historical loadout as it stands.
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The problem is it would end up at 13.7 and be worse than the competition
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f16A ADF italy version loadout is NOT historical, as it didn’t have the machinery to launch aim7 Sparrows but it had aim120 and aim9L-I.
No i will not leak sekrit documents.
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then just decompress the br’s
Prove that F-16A ADF is incapable of using AIM-9Ls and AIM-7s, I’ll wait.
You claim it can’t, so provide evidence.
there is already an accepted bug report.
go search for it yourself instead of gaslighting here.
@Odlatac24
Stop misusing the word “gaslight” when you mean to type “I think your statement is incorrect”.
Seriously, doing that demeans those with real mental illness by misusing a word. It’s disgusting.
Italian sources say that Sparrow guidance system was removed before planes arrived to Italy.
More than that most of people on the forum would like Italian F-16ADF to have the weapon it used in the Italian service, where it was chosen specifically as AIM-120 platform.
I don’t know why some players want the plane to be artificially nerfed in some way, it isn’t like Italy loses something significantly important if you move F-16ADF higher. There are still multiple SARH platforms in the Italian tech tree.
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AIM-120s is seen as an artificial nerf as it’d be 13.7 with 60 countermeasures when you could just fly the Typhoon or Gripen instead.
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You don’t know the meaning of “artificial” it seems. It’s the weapon it used in the Italian service, not AIM-7M. If it is worse than its contenders, its BR can be decreased.
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@YaSen
We’ve never played as air forces in War Thunder.
It’s irrelevant what Italy’s air force used, it’s only relevant what the manufacturer says can be used.
F-16ADF in the Italian TT represents F-16ADF of the Italian Air Force.
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But does have R60M which is full aspect to say the least and has R27ER.
AIM-9L is superior, and I have AIM-7F on F-16A. An overall better loadout than 2 good missiles, and 4 eh missiles.
This is a representation of the ADF in Italian service, which means AIM-7 guidance system was removed.
These aircraft are physically incapable of using AIM-7, unless they go through further hardware and software modification, which should not be a standard chosen for the game as that opens up the ability for any aircraft to essentially carry whatever Gaijin feels like and throws history out the window.
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Good one, next?
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@MuccoPazzino
Facts are indeed good.
If you want your PREFERRED historical loadout, say that.
Just don’t lie about loadouts.
My preferred loadout of F-16As are AIM-9Js, but I can wait for Block 1/5 for that desire.