Now, read all suggestion, and you will understand, that i ask same question.
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Maybe.
Who knows?
I guess not.
To clarify to those asking about the 4 targets and the Vikhr-1, it’s internal designation is 9М227М2, not 9K127, and Vikhr-1, to quote: “Сообщается, что в самых последних версиях ракет, 9М227М1, 9М227Ф и 9М227О-2 наведение осуществляется не по лазерному лучу, а инфракрасными ГСН.” Or in translation, that the beam receiver in the back has been exchanged for an IR tracking head. Other version of it has a passive radar head allowing it to lock onto SPAA.
https://dzen.ru/a/ZIafTG1BgnT5CaIk
as for the 4 targets, it’s in the manual attached at the original post;
“Пуск ракеты производится после захвата цели на автосопровождение. Комплекс обеспечивает возможность одновременного обстрела одной цели двумя ПТУР и обстрел до четырех целей в течение 30 секунд.”
In translation, the Shkval-M complex is able to shoot 2 ATGM’s at one target or 4 targets within 30 seconds, granted it is within the tracking sector of the helicopter, and that the targets have been marked on the display.
And lastly, to those saying about buffs or nerf, this is neither a buff or a nerf, it’s a historical fact that there are more than one version of the Vikhr missile that can be confirmed through many conflicting names, designations and statistics of the missile, what I am pointing out is simply that the original missile’s range and penetration stats got mixed between the versions of it. My proposal is to simply add the rest of the vikhr variants to distinguish them OR to settle for a single variant of it and go from there.
Because as it stands, the Vikhr in game uses base variant release date (therefore able to be mounted on the earlier KA-50), base variant penetration, but upgraded variant’s range and tracking, which currently when mounted on the KA-50 is disbalancing the game, and this is simply my proposal that doesn’t nerf the KA-52 or the Mi-28NM therefore keeping them viable, but making the KA-50 weaker and less prevalent due to the shorter range, on top of that 4km ceiling would simply be one more limitation to a missile that is frankly very strong already, and I feel like it needs one because of that.
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It is possible that there are only 2 variants due to there being 2 designations not 3, agreed, I am only human afterall. 9K127 and 9M227M2 (and it’s derivatives).
Photo? Any official sources like Kalashnikov website?
Your missile fly on max distance 23 seconds. U can shoot 4 missiles, of course. In game u can shoot 4 missiles too. 4 targets at same time shkval cant track and shoot. Only 1 laser beam channel.
It is index of complex. 9M121 index of missile.
The Vikhr-1 at the “Army 2020” expo by Kalashnikov
Official website of Kalashnikov has not yet been updated, but it’s said Vikhr-1 has entered serial production already. Though I will upload one as soon as a better one is available.
Also as I said, laser is used only for designating a target, the IR head does the rest automatically, at least that’s what I gather from what is being said. And I know how beam riding works, that’s specifically why I’m saying it’s NOT completely beam-guided, please read above.
Also I believe you meant the other way around, 9K121 being the name of the complex the missile meing 9M127.
Vikhr-1 means soviet Vikhr with laser beamriding, but produced by Kalashnikov
https://kalashnikovgroup.ru/catalog/raketno-artilleriyskoe-vooruzhenie/upravlyaemye-aviatsionnye-rakety/vikhr-1
Can u show IR seeker on missile?
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You can watch real footages of Ka-52 work. All vikhrs would be LOSBR.
Again, there would be no need to reclassify the same missile under more than one designation and name if the producer is the same, moreover making an exhibit out of it if it were not an upgrade.
Also I cannot find a good picture (Only one of a KA-52 equipped with the new ones, but the launch tube is closed off), only words of Kalashnikov representatives.
Because there is no VIkhr with IR seeker
Again, you’re talking about the beam guided vikhr, and ofcourse the 9M127 original variant will be beam-guided, that’s something we’ve already discussed. That’s exactly why we are NOT talking about it.
Again, I am only relaying what kalashnikov and the news are saying, if you have issues with there not being good pictures of the IR head, you can take it up with them. They are saying it exists and is being used and has entered serial production in 2013, I cannot confirm OR deny, I am sorry if this is not enough for you, but it’s not MY words.
Also… Vikhr cant have IR seeker, because this hole in nose of missile used for control canards, like Kornet ATGM.
I repeat, for the 3rd time, I gave you information that is available, if you want your questions answered contact the manufacturer or leave that to gaijin. (Or optionally you CAN leak classified documents if you have any, but I do not endorse or encourage that)
From what Kalashnikov says, there is an 9M127 and an 9M227 though they seem to share the same name — Vikhr-1 and both of those names are coming from a representative which makes it even more confusing having 2 designations. The 9M117 by has only one variant, it’s upgrade — 9M227, which in turn has different iterations For example 9M227M1 variant is an IR seeker, 9M227M2 is a Passive radar seeker and so on. I have only the manufacturer’s word to go on, so I am sincerely sorry if I cannot extort more information than what is available.
Place seeker off-center?
You really count Yzen as a source?
No but I count the Kalashnikov representative’s word at army expo and in the multiple news outlets a source.
Tracking and guiding weapons are two different things.
So no Ka-5X cannot engage 4 different targets with beam riding Vikhrs at the same time.
Anyhow many helis has ability to track multiple targets, for exaple Apache D has 4 tracked targets with TADS and 128 targets with Longbow radar.
Read above before posting please. As I will have to mention for the 4th time, it is because we are NOT talking about the beam-riding vikhr’s, that is likely why you are confused.