It’s not even. It’s a sidegrade to the rest with its own performance envelope. The only one that is just better than the 9M is the AAM3 and its not by massive amounts.
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Well, what I meant was Pangolin thinks it is, so if we think AIM-9M is the worst IRCCM for arguing’s sake.
I should’ve mentioned it on there too…
I disagree. The A-10s are both fantastic planes, both that do better actually from their lack of speed. The lack of speed allows you to be a little slower to the fight and take your time at picking enemies off. Also, they both turn like a prop, allowing you to be really good at defensive flying. The A-10C with the MAWs and 9Ms are even better- you face some flare less jets like the F-104J, or PLENTY of low flare jets, and so can easily dispatch them as well. The gun? Also absolutely atrocious against any and all airplanes. It’s an Annihilator.
Overall, it’s a good plane. It just needs to be used properly.
The same two noobs that everyone expected to be dying to a doodoo missile.
Comparing the A-10C to the F-104J sure is an interesting way to try and claim its good.
That heavily depends on whether your enemies are sentient. When I first started unlocking vehicles like the F-104 and F-100D, I too thought the A-10A Early and Su-25 were OP. Once I learned simple situational awareness, I came to find that taking both out is rather easy.
As for the A-10C, it’s great against Su-33s as they’re dumb enough to get close, but anyone with any amount of sentience will easily be able to counter you
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What the hell are you talking about
We are telling you that AIM-9M isn’t a ‘slight upgrade’ of AIM-9L
Being IRCCM and non-IRCCM is a big change.
no matter whether you feel the difference or not.
And, talking about AIM-9M on A-10C(11.3BR) in the 9.3BR compression topic is tightroping the off-topic, since F-100D(9.3BR) don’t face A-10C.
So, are we going to stop off-topic discussion, or not?
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I think you misread what I was suggesting; I’m not comparing the two, merely saying that the A-10C can face an F-104J, which is in fact a flare less aircraft.
I don’t think the Su-25s in ARB are up in any manner. They are sluggish and struggle to maneuver or go fast. The A-10, however, can maneuver really well, which is great for both offensive and defensive flying. It’s armament is also far from lack luster, which is helpful- hitting someone with a 9L/M or who is dumb enough to turn in front of you is always very fun. It also isn’t just a good A2A plane; in ARB, it does well in the A2G aspect with a far reaching hard hitting gun. I could routinely probably get 10-15 targets a game; and that’s without any real suspended armament, as that just hampers you’re ability to really fly. But, all that said, it’s an opinion, one you and I are allowed to disagree.
Regardless, the A-10 early absolutely makes 9.3 a difficult BR to play. 9Ls against flareless planes like the F-100D are rough, to say the least. The only 9.3 that deserves to see 9Ls ironically doesn’t even really see them thanks to being same faction, and that’s the F-104A.
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But, why would you even bring up one of the worst planes in the entire BR range? The A-10A and A-10C are basically identical when fighting a flareless aircraft.
The Su-25 is faster than the A-10A, but in turns slightly worse. Afaik, the A-10A is one of the only planes that the Su-25 can’t outturn.
The Su-25’s worse turning is kinda supplemented by the R-60MKs, as they’re pretty good dogfight missiles. That does only really apply against flareless planes though. Some of the higher performance planes at that BR (like the F-4C) can dodge an Aim-9L front aspect, but not an R-60MK.
Keyword, anyone dumb enough. Avoiding an A-10A/Su-25, or simply attacking from above isn’t difficult once you’re accustomed to the BR.
Why do you say that? The F-104A/C are absolute trash post-nerf.
Regardless of any of this, the BR system from 8.0 - 10.3 is completely screwed. A Mig 15Bis shouldn’t be facing a first gen Meteor or Ouragan, nor should it be facing a Super Saber or Star fighter lol. The F4D/Clk mkb/F3D shouldn’t be facing a Mirage IIIC, F4C (due to speed and inability to ever catch any sort of competent pilot), or Aim9g’s/SRAAM slinging planes.
The higher BR’s got some reworks/slight decompression with 14.7 but I just don’t enjoy top tier as it is. Just not very good against Fox 3’s, but regardless, they got some relief.
It’s about time Gaijin did some real work there balancing things out and raise the BR ACAP TO AT LEAST 15.0; really 16.0 and really make some breathing room.
I and many others, I’m sure, wouldn’t mind waiting a full minute in the que for some good, well- balanced games and competition.
You can fire even trash 9b at front shots to decoy them, but them coming from nowhere still almost guaranteed kills you
The biggest issue is swedens p2w problem child, lowered for no reason. The rating has been even worse than it was, coming from someone who plays 9.3-10.0 almost all the time.
Even ignoring the blatant overpowered 10.3 it’s still mostly pointless playing some of the 9.0 since you will just see magics sometimes. F86k/p16 vs 35g 🤣
They quickly increased the rating of the modern aircraft recently but refuse to fix this which is infinitely more problematic
People still have it in their mind that 104 is overpowered
Got the c one recently and while it was okay it is nothing special over at least the china early 21 or 19pt
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When did they nerf the starfighter? It certainly hasn’t felt nerfed, not while playing it at least
Is this thing also Russian?
Which part of “it isn’t a fighter” did you not grasp?
I did not say they were comparable, I said they are contemporaries… because they are. They’re built for completely different roles, there’s no reason the A-10 has to be capable of competing as a fighter at any BR, just like low tier attackers vs their fighter opposition the A-10 should be getting completely clapped by EVERY fighter it can face.
Look at regions where the A-10 has been deployed and where an opposition air threat is present, now tell me what they were flying…
Hint:
Iraq, Korea, USSR, Serbia, what do they all have in common that rhymes with Pig-29?
What do Russia and other former Soviet republics operate alongside their MiG-29’s?
love how everyones saying russian bias not mentioning the J35XS which is just as op if not more OP due to SIX AIM-9Js which unlike early R60s HAVE A LOT OF RANGE
It was like a year ago. Gajin ahistorically increased its wing drag by like 7 fold.
That literally does not matter. When it comes at ARB balance, all that matters is its fighter v.s fighter performance.
I’m not saying the J35XS isn’t OP, however saying the 9Js have “A LOT OF RANGE” is just flat out wrong.
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The hard truth might be because a lot of people themselves own it…
There was a thread complaining about how good the T2 was and it got a lot of hate but coincidentally this discussion was right after the premium T2 was put on sale
This mirage is undeniably absurd in a downtier but 0 countermeasures at 10.0 makes it somewhat fair with current compression. The 10.3 21s and j35 could be 10.7 fine even with current compression arguably which is why I hate going against them. I’m pretty sure this all started with j7 lower rating cause people thought it was so much worse than the 21 bis and nobody bought it. Well, you sure got what you wished for, and everyone has it now and ruins matches.
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I auto focus those fucking things when i fly the F8FN and mirageIII, just absolute pests to deal with and the people flying them know how annoying they are.
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They way better range than a R60 you can hit 1.5 mile shots with relative ease
its more the MIG 23 MLD and MLA due to at 10.7 facing them often than J7 due to no RWR