9.3 needs changes ASAP

apparently a lot of people considering i got 21 FULL uptiers in a total of 26 games

thats good. it challenges you to become a better player when you play against stronger opponents instead of weaker opponents.

challenging you to try poke a lion with a stick

edit because i cant make more posts?

youre forgetting about how 9.3 is point and click, if theres more than 1 enemy that saw you for a split second youre gonna die, 10.3 just contributes to that because you rarely have matches where you actually can take in 1 more shot than usual just because you didnt see a 75 kmh radkamp on the other side of the map, then you have the 10.3 vehicles that contribute to the aids as if not looking at a 360 constantly didnt give you enough.

considering what you said, a lot of people are on 9.3 because they are most likely HARDSTUCK on 9.3 due to how unskilled it is, and THEN you have the simply better 10.3 vehicles adding salt onto your injury

this is the same as 5.7, if it were getting downtiered this would also be happening

people are hardstuck on 9.3 because of the point and click, 10.3 destroying you because the vehicles are yours but simply better (and no im not saying theyre unkillable, theyre too frequent for 9.3), making you get rp much harder, 260k rp while the most ive ever gotten on 9.3 was 7k in 1 match (WITH PREMIUM) is absurd

More like poking a lion with a sword. sometimes you get killed but as you get better you learn where their major arteries are and start to get better at killing the lion. i understand that people hate being challenged and just want to be comfortable and want to be able to kill everyone else with ease.

Those 10.3s are facing other 10.3s, so no, they can’t “kill an entire team”.
And there’s not as much difference between 9.3 and 10.3 as your post claims.

Take T-80UD for example.
At 9.3 I have a 120 DM13 equivalent round: 105mm DM33.
I have thermals, a stabilizer, and usually a fast tank.
Sometimes that tank has armor, sometimes it doesn’t.
Soviet 9.3s lack thermals.

T-80UD has armor and a 105mm DM63 equivalent round.
If T-80UD was stuck with 3BM22, it’d be a slower more armored Khalid.
If TURMS-T didn’t have thermals and 3BM42, it’s quite literally a T-72A with basic ERA.

And no, the more people in a BR the more likely that BR is to be up-BR’d.
The less people that play a BR compared to up and below, the more likely that BR is to be down-BR’d.
All due to the 4 player limit per side.

So because 8.3 is dead, and 10.3 is dead, but 9.3 is the most popular its ever been, 9.3 will see more up-BRs on average, cause there’s not enough 8.3 players to allow for more 9.3 down-BRs, and there are too many 11.0+ players for 10.3 to get sucked up as often.

Up/down tier chance is entirely predictable in War Thunder.
This also means 8.3 gets more down-BRs than up-BRs.

nice try liberal, unfortunately im in a centurion

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If not in point blank range, you ARE NOT going to hit the barrel most of the time

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German 9.3 is quite good. You have Leo 1A5, the 57mm on a marder hull, and TAM 2IP. Also TAM armor isn’t trolly, all Marder hulls are. I bounced off ATGMs before in DF105

while sweden has a centurion with the only good thing about it being it has long dart and a T-72 rofl

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I played both german 9.3 and soviet 10.3 a lot
tbh, I found out it isnt that hard to fight against p2w soviet players, they have good vehicles ofc, but it seems like how good their vehicles are, how less flexible they play.
what they have is insanely good, they just cant play it well, so it is somehow balanced

…you can’t be serious…

all vehicles in this game are easy to kill “if you know where to shoot”…

We can put the Begleitpanzer at 4.0 then right? because it is easy to kill?

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There has to be something there to break down to begin with.

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the capabilities of begleitpanzer matches other vehicles of brs 9-10 the best and same with 2s38

BMP 2
Spamcanon and ATGMs while moving
2S38
Spamcanon with good APFSDS and still highly survivable
T80UD
Sometimes the crew just doesn’t die from eating a whole L27 dart
T72 turms
Refer to the previous statement

TLDR trash argument

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I know it was said somewhere that you can only face 4x 10.3 tanks in a full uptier, but there’s also only 4x 9.3 tanks, which is you if you’re playing 9.3. But don’t forget the part where there’s also 4x 9.7 and 4x 10.0 vehicles you have to fight, which are all better than your tank. I have no stake in this debate, I’m just sayin.

disproves what? all you said is that its balanced because you can barrel snipe. Should the M10 be at 11.3? i mean it could just barrel snipe a MBT and shoot it in the side

Such a nothing burger of an argument in this topic. 9.3 is one of the best BRs for nations such as France, Soviets, plenty of others. The only downside to it is your own teams when you’re uptiered to 10.3 and have to put up with premium tanks manned by new players and unskilled players. If you actually look at the tanks you get at 9.3, you’d stop crying about being uptiered in them. Let us look at Soviets, shall we? You get T-64A, T-72A, 2S25, Object775, BMD4 (if you have it), BMP3 (uptiered from 9), SPAA, etc. It’s absolutely stacked and contains vehicles that can deal with uptiers without issue. Similar stories for UK, France, China, Italy, and so on. For some of those nations, they have even stronger line-ups on either side, but that just means you’ll be getting them on your team often to help you out.

Only thing stopping me from spamming the 9.3 line-up is me having the Object279 and adoring it. Though, you could easily run it at 9.3, since it loves nuking tanks in an uptier with its 130mm APHE.

You forgot to add T-72 and KPz-70. I think their 9.3 is probably the best in the game.

Good point but I’ll have to disagree on T-64A, it’s a straight up worse T-72A that has no LRF and it’s UFP is not that strong even at 9.3, let alone 10.3 darts.

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It’s still wild to me that some nations get to actually have armor (cries in Italy)