Hello, im seeking for help since its pain fighting againts mig-series im playing britain and tell me why Vampire F.B.S is placed at 8.0 while mig-15 with a lot better stats is placed at 8.0 too
ammo supply perhaps?
i mean it is true that theirs ammo supply is bad buts its very hard to land a hit with their speed
Because Gaijins balancing department is extremely weird sometimes and has the occasional confusing BR placements like this. I guess fortunately more vehicles are overtiered than there are undertiered ones.
8.0 is sort of also a bad place where WW2 or immmediate post WW2 designs for early jets (and their upgraded versions) give way for the much more powerful 2nd gen jets. (Are they 2nd gen by the Sabre/Mig 15?) So theres a bit of a jump in performance.
The Vampire isnt the only one effected, planes like the R2Y2 and even the later Me262s sit around there as well and are hopelessly outmatched.
the migs are so much more faster its impossible for my planes to catch up (even if i have alt advantage)
Mig 15s and Sabres went down in BR a while ago, greatest mistake GJN could do. Instead of decompress the BRs above, they press them into 7.3.
The Britain planes worth playing at that rating are the sea venom, venom and scimitar, and perhaps the first hunter. I’d skip the rest, they’re just subpar in my experience.
Also the Canberra is an actually good bomber to get through that rank it pretty consistently get bases.
I’ve played a lot of 8.0 recently, and generally resorted to grass-cutting to spade various jets which are not particularly effective against the spam of common A/F-Sabres and MiG-15(bis).
I personally recommend either grinding through that tier with something that is 6.7 to avoid the Sabre/MiG mess until you get your own equivalent to those planes. Only if the Sabres and MiGs are really stupid can the majority of 7.0-8.3 planes win against them. And arguably, Sabres are way more dangerous than MiGs due to better high-speed controls, less control stiffening, airbrakes, way more ammo, and higher-velocity guns.
I recently spaded the Me-262A-1a/U1, Me-262A-2a, Me-262C-1a, Me-262C-2b, Ki-200, R2Y2 V1, R2Y2 V2, and R2Y2 V3. Unless the Sabres were exceptionally stupid, there was nothing I could do to them - headon passes are generally a stupid maneuver for any vehicle. At least the R2Y2s were kinda funny at grass-cutting with their APHE belts…
And while the Me-262A-2a is 6.7, it merely trades the Sabre problem for the P-51H problem. Early jets which are not American get no respite (as to a lesser extent the F-80s and especially F2H also are serious pains in the ass).
In true Russian bias fashion they’re OP and under BR’ed.
Almost every Sabre and Mig15/17 is undertiered, this isn’t unique to Russia.
Sabres aren’t an issue, they’re balanced as all western vehicles are.
This is a clear attempt at luring Russian mains to explore other trees to get their wallets.
“Ooo! Lookey here! one of my OP Russian vehicles in another tree, I’m gonna get it!”
You have to see this.
Yes they are - they routinely are fighting stuff which is completely incapable of touching them provided the Sabres have more than two brain cells screaming “headon” and “turn moar”
I’d say the ussr stuff is a little bit better if you compare all attributes but the USA stuff gets much more kills due to actually having high speed manuverability. They’re both dumb good though
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lmao
What makes the F-86A worse than a Mig-15, or why does it deserve to be 8.0?
The F-86A is (imo) a better plane than the Mig-15.
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They aren’t as dominant as MiG-15s are, this is clear if you play 1 match.
The only thing I can think of is low to mid-speed maneuverability and snapshot burst mass. Sabres do everything else better than MiG-15s.
The evidence is proof of the pudding, compare equally skilled players of each nation and the Russian user wins due to the vehicles.
I have been spading a whole bunch of low-midtier jets lately, and can only assume this is due to idiots turnfighting the MiG-15s, which they are good at, and then complaining how “overpowered” the MiGs are.
For the MiG 15, everything.
Its flight model and guns are formidable at its BR, near enough unkillable, a far better aircraft than the F86.
I’ve played both the Mig-15bis ISH and the F-86A, and I would rate them on par with each other.
Having usable guns and being able to roll above 700kmh is way more useful than a bit more energy retention and acceleration.