8.0-8.7 Air RB Needs Fixing (F-86 and MiG variants are universally undertiered)

May I ask your experience on the Vampire and Meteor? I absolutely love the jets, but the only time I’ve ever found use was in 1v1s, pubs are moreso, I spend half the match getting there, and then the game ends

I’ve spaded almost every rank 5 jet in game, including those. 8.0 meteors are not beatable by 7.0-7.7 without a large skill gap

I’m well aware I can turn fight, the sucky part is that nobody turnfights the Meteor and Vampire. It is like everyone knows not to do that, but then I will look to my right and see some F-86 trying to turnfight a prop.

The meteor, again, is still faster than pretty much every jet below 8.0

Now the hard part is getting downtiers in the first place, hahaha

But you said to downtier the Meteor, which will cause it to ONLY see these jets as it will be the same BR as them…

Eh true, but nah, I don’t dislike you in the slightest. I disagree with you in some stuff, but disagree is not dislike. Maybe my issue with the Meteor is moreso I get jumped by three guys or I never see anyone, with the rare exception I am allowed one elim.

You need to give hope they will win in the turn fight. Entice them with your body. Greed will take care of the rest.

Still a problem, never fixed, looks like never going to be fixed. Worst part is, the community overall doesn’t even think the MIGs or F86s are undertiered.

With the kind of pilots using them, it’s hard not to make that mistake.

gaijin did this fully well knowing what the problems were, they know, they just dont care

I more meant the community part but it works both ways.

To be fair, it’s not exactly their faults. A new player going into 8.0 has no idea of how stupidly compressed higher BRs are. They just see way stronger planes in uptiers, and think “No way this plane should go up!”

Hey now we have flareless sabres at 9.3 (CA-27) while the CL-13B sits pretty at 9.0

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The CA-27 is the only F-86 being taken seriously regarding battle ratings it seems. Every other F-86 (besides K) should be going up 0.3 as well

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It makes no sense when unless I’m mistaken it lacks the slats of the cl13 so in return for being a little faster it’s worse at turning?

Like why’s it got to be at the same rating as most of the 9.3 jets just like the poor g91y bruh

It’s a lot faster

Do we still not know what compression is? Fr? You know exactly why

Really both should be 9.3 and every MiG/F-86 below this BR needs to come up 0.3 too

Ok, I guess I’m mistaken then, though it was only slightly

Idk still like when will they split up the 9.3 range or at least fix some of the obvious subpar ones like f86k or the french things rather than doing this as a priority…

I am all on board for raising stuff, but I prefer they raise everything 9.3 and up at the same time…

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Turns a LOT worse, CL-13 also accelerates better. I mean, the only genuinely good aspect of the CA-27 is the MER at higher speeds. It just so happens that other British jets at this rank are so horrifically bad that we’re tearing it up in this new sabre.

No. Sabres have always been jets able to do multiple styles of fighting including energy fighting, the CA27 just enhances this aspect of the vehicle in exchange for being worse at dogfighting.