Totally agree, most of the heavies 7.7 are abandoned since long time ago, the recent BRs changes was a joke specially after Gaijin infested rank 4 of HE and HEAT time travelers can easily one shot all heavies.
The problem is for Gaijin outside of top tier and glorify russia dont have interest in improve lower ranks anymore.
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Decompression doesn’t work when they keep adding high caliber HE vehicles or low tier HEAT tanks. M109/2S3M/Type 99/AuF1 or even the M51/M50/M36B/… complete negate their armor, are more mobile, some reload 2-3 times as fast and you can’t even 1 shot them due to their weird armor profile sometimes not triggering APHE. The only thing that will help these heavies is a major decrease in reload time without changing their BR.
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The only thing they do is keep adding more Leopard 2s and T-80s while 90% of their playerbase is left to rot in the unbalanced mess of low to mid tier. Artillery should have never been added.
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HE doesn’t work half the time.
Low and mid caliber HEAT are RNG on whether they will do anything at all or not.
APDS and APCR are effectively worthless.
There’s a lot more going on that make 7.0-7.7 heavies hard to enjoy.
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HE doesn’t work half the time.
Any half decently aimed shot with high caliber HE will oneshot.
Low and mid caliber HEAT are RNG on whether they will do anything at all or not.
HEAT will pen 100% of the time and at least disable if not kill the tank that gets shot at with the exception of the M103, Conqueror or Maus.
APDS and APCR are effectively worthless.
APDS and APCR (T32 APCR is amazing) aren’t worthless at all you just need to aim like with HEAT.
There’s a lot more going on that make 7.0-7.7 heavies hard to enjoy.
What exactly?
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Tell that to the T-34-85 that ate 3 direct hits to the turret side, with no damage, last weekend from my Paladin. HE does not work half the time. Don’t even try to gaslight me.
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Wrong. Low/Mid caliber HEAT can fail to do anything even on a post-pen. Again, gaslighting doesn’t work on me.
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Wrong.
Oh, I don’t know maybe these funny things called BR compression and garbage map design, to name two.
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On the 5.7 T-34-85, only the rear sides of the turret can be penetrated by the M109’s HE.
You could’ve just shot the hull.
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Trust me, I’ve tried that too before.
As RNG as hitting the turret.
You’re obviously trolling but I’ll try to explain it anyway.
Tell that to the T-34-85 that ate 3 direct hits to the turret side, with no damage, last weekend from my Paladin.
I said a decently aimed shot would kill. You shot the worst possible spot as the T-34 has more armor on the turret than on the hull itself. The fact you didn’t learn anything and tried it again 2 times doesn’t help your case.
Wrong. Low/Mid caliber HEAT can fail to do anything even on a post-pen.
Do you even play the game?
Wrong.
Who are you to judge its APCR you probably haven’t even unlocked it. T32s APCR is great against any Maus, Ferdinand and Ho Ri.
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I don’t need an explanation from you. I know you’re full of shit and trying to gaslight me. Simple as.
I know you’re full of shit and trying to gaslight me.
Did you learn a new word or why do you keep bringing that up? How old are you?
Seeing how you lack the maturity to not lie like some swine politician I can guarantee I’m older than you, not that age is even relevant to this discussion in the first place.
You’ve made it clear you’re just trying to waste my time with this drivel, though. So we’re done here.
Shouldn’t even be in the game. How are you ever going to place that in the game when it had no place in reality? Why is it even in the game when Gaijin took other fantasy vehicles out.
Seems to be that Gaijin don’t give a moment’s thought to whether any vehicle is even right for the game they just want to include every vehicle even if it screws the game up.
The issue for 7.7 to me is its the nasty Cold War tier that the top end of WW2 get thrown into and its full of tanks and AFVs from a different canon. That is a mess they will never sort out because its inherently wrong and now feels more and more wrong as more modern vehicles are added.
C’mon the random nature of HE in this game isn’t even up for debate. Even the Brumbar gets snagged on the gun barrel of a Walker Bulldog and does nothing on occasion.
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Least obvious forum troll
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Shells getting caught on random objects is a server issue the desync in this game is horrible and it affect all rounds not just HE. I never had problems with HE at low to mid tier it’s only at the higher tier where armor layout starts getting weird and HE damage is random depending on what pixel you hit.
Maus/E100 23.6 → 21s
Shouldn’t even be in the game. How are you ever going to place that in the game when it had no place in reality?
It’s a game it doesn’t matter if it worked IRL. If that was the case half of the vehicles would need to be removed. The Maus can be balanced just like the other 7.7s.
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No and that is why so many long term veterans are leaving in droves and letting the new breed take over. You can read all the complaints on here about that elsewhere no doubt. Its become a silly game indeed and many are slowly losing respect for it.
Not finding that and we have agreed on some things and not on others ,it’s a forum.
No disrespect that is not the game I am playing. How many mentions of random HEAT do you need to read on here on this forum. Check out the debate about the M51 ,its full of discussion regarding the random nature of HE.
Its, dare I say it, part of the game not something that even requires a chat about whether it exists or not. It’s kind of obvious.
I don’t think Gaijin would commit to making HEAT as deadly as it should be so they randomized it for BR sake. More fake physics to appease the kids maybe?
Not finding that and we have agreed on some things and not on others ,it’s a forum.
Does this seem like a serious reply to you?
No and that is why so many long term veterans are leaving in droves and letting the new breed take over. You can read all the complaints on here about that elsewhere no doubt. Its become a silly game indeed and many are slowly losing respect for it.
That has nothing to do with tanks like the Maus. Veterans have been leaving the game for ages and if anything these heavy tanks were a lot less balanced when they were still around. This game has been getting worse every year with new features nobody asked for and them ignoring the community.
No disrespect that is not the game I am playing. How many mentions of random HEAT do you need to read on here on this forum. Check out the debate about the M51 ,its full of discussion regarding the random nature of HE.
Are you mixing up HE and HEAT? Yes HEAT sucks at times and I’d rather have it fixed and their BRs adjusted but HEAT is still extremely dangerous to heavy tanks if you can aim.
Also I was talking about HE not HEAT.
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How did some germen hate mange to sneak into the thread?
I’m all for Heavies getting a buff since they are in such a bad place.
I’d like to see the Maus reload come down to 12-14 seconds.