5th Gen Will Ruin the Game — Here’s Why

I don’t understand why most of the U.S. military’s development programs end up over budget. Is it due to poor fund management, corruption, or something else? What are those Smith commissioners trying to do?

We Chinese often say, “Nobody will wait around for you for twenty years.” But the United States really did wait for us for two decades. (Of course, I’m not saying the U.S. military hasn’t made any progress—my wording might have been misleading.)

This isn’t meant as mockery—it’s genuinely a question worth pondering.

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Constellation class was supposed to be a quick modification of the proven Italian design (Change out guns used standardized USA equipment) Fair changes. They modified the whole thing and suffered from project bloat this is a common thing now in Western military procurement. Everyone wants to put there own ideas into the project for differing motivations. Back in the day it might have been manageable when the USA had better industry (just brute force it) but now its just too much.

(I’m from Canada so our solution is to do nothing :-) cant fail a test if you don’t do it!)

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Thats just every public program in a democracy tbf. Its not directly your money so oversight is more lax compared to the private sector and you usually have to get your program accepted by some form of majority which is easier the smaller the cost is. Theres always something you can blame later budget bloats on.

Are oversight and regulation actually stricter in the private sector in the United States?

I don’t understand. The public sector wields far greater power and resources than the private sector—shouldn’t it logically be subject to more rigorous oversight? (I’m not sure if I’ve accurately understood your point—please correct me if I’m wrong.)

The Constellation-class frigate was quite decent, but it’s a shame the program went belly up.

Though with a displacement of over 7,000 tons, it’s actually pretty close to the Type 052D destroyer.😂

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Not necessarily but in the private sector its usually some investors money on the line and that investor is going to very closely check everything. The public sector has guidelines and regulations but a lot of the projects there are fairly unique (especially military) so its usually hard to compare and the planning commitee or whoever is in charge is not going to barter over every buck spent like a private investor would.

OK, I got it.🤝

Peoples pocket book would differ. Project was not finalized when she was laid down. (big project no no)

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Let’s turn our attention to the Trump-class battleship! I hope she has a cathedral on board (like in Warhammer 40k).

· No ill intent, no political motives.

US shipbuilding industry is incapable of building it and the failsons in charge are completely divorced from material reality and don’t have the skills or the will to face the fact that to build that kind of vessel they would need to jumpstart a program that might restore industrial capacity in a few decades. It will never be built, simple as.

Anyway back on topic, I can’t wait to get the rafale with meteors, turning a bias mobile into a bias dragster

Haha, I was just trying to lighten the mood a bit.

Currently, the J-10C is still in a semi-finished state in-game. Given that even China’s 4.5-generation fighters are like this, I wouldn’t be surprised by anything that happens with the 5th-gen ones.

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This is part of a video series created by a creator on Bilibili. This particular episode covers the topic of Loyal Wingman. (Honestly, the Indian English accent in it is really authentic.)

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you did, shittalking the US is always a good time ^^

It’s a shame, the only cool and unique designs china gets is basically above 11.0 and they’re all scuffed in some shape or form… :(

You know, China, once a follower, is now a leader alongside the United States. The shift in identity has been so vast that many people still aren’t accustomed to it.

On May 7, 2025, our equipment proved our capabilities—though, of course, some people in India still refuse to believe it.😝

11.0?
Qing-6, Q-5 series, F-100A, F-47N, P-51K, etc.

And their above 11.0 stuff is all amazing, with multiple being OP for their BR.

key word being “unique”, china suffers from the copy paste syndrome (variants of other countries stuff isn’t unique imo)

You literally quoted unique vehicles, and there are more than those.

I wouldn’t mind, our government is basically holding on by a thread and dishing out intense police brutality to rein us in. But since France is a white country and part of the “International rules bases order” and western, it’s all swept under the rug.

Anyway I want my fuckin meteors gaijoobles pls

I always thought you were from Venezuela.

well the SU57 would be stealthier in SOME and i mean SOME angles but 98% of angles the f22 should be lower observable than the su57