well from the research I did on the DA.2 for the suggestion whilst not equipped with radar initially it was very soon refitted with it as it became available, DA.1 may never have as I never saw the need for in depth research into a variant I wasn’t making a suggestion about, however the DA.2 did take part in ASRAAM firing tests and was fully capable of carrying and firing ASRAAM, AIM-9 and AMRAAM (technically sky flash as well but never tested at all)
DA.2 went through a wide series of Refits and upgrades throughout its life with it getting the ECR-90, EJ-200 Engines and a ton of pressure sensors for airframe tests
do you have a source for the specific asraam firing?
all i could find myself was also “captive flight trials”…
hell, the rafmuseum only lists “Conducted captive flight trials with MBDA ASRAAM air - air missile” and nothing about radars…
While I don’t have a link I had asked some staff at the RAF Museum at Hendon last year and they said that the DA.2 had conducted ASRAAM firing trials, and they listed their Records as source, i just didnt have time to dig through them all to find it.
Even if they were wrong the DA.2 carried a full avionics suite and was more than capable of firing them.
if we talk about the German version it also had AIM 9 I-1 with a new seaker from Diehl thats about the same as the one on the 9M and i think the UK tested that missile aswell… the I-1 is a 9L with a newer seaker btw
F-4F ICE is offically considered a 4.5 Gen in the Luftwaffe because of the Radar and its Weapons together with the upgraded Avionics but its a Gen 3 Platform plus it makes more sense to add it before we get the Eurofighter and before its too late and DOA
The advantage is IRIS-T (60G). The problem will be if the F4F ICE based on a 2-3 generation aircraft will play against the 4th generation with an old cockpit (ILS), without OLS, without NSC, only 4 Aim-120 + 4 melee missiles. This is not 6 p77 at 27cm + 4 r73. F4F ICE will be worse than the Su-27 with R27ER + 73.
just so you know the 4F ICE did use IRIS-T and even the Meteor before the Eurofighter got it as it the Meteor was made for it to replace the ageing 120B also HMD was later added to it but i fully understand it will fight certain jets so lets give it at least 1 better missile to give it a trade off
Ive discussed the potential balancing of the F-4 ICE in my suggestion post for it (which has been passed on to the devs). Note that this was made two updates before the Su-27 and F-15 were introduced in game, at the time the F-16C and MiG-29SMT were the newest jets