F-4F ICE is offically considered a 4.5 Gen in the Luftwaffe because of the Radar and its Weapons together with the upgraded Avionics but its a Gen 3 Platform plus it makes more sense to add it before we get the Eurofighter and before its too late and DOA
The advantage is IRIS-T (60G). The problem will be if the F4F ICE based on a 2-3 generation aircraft will play against the 4th generation with an old cockpit (ILS), without OLS, without NSC, only 4 Aim-120 + 4 melee missiles. This is not 6 p77 at 27cm + 4 r73. F4F ICE will be worse than the Su-27 with R27ER + 73.
just so you know the 4F ICE did use IRIS-T and even the Meteor before the Eurofighter got it as it the Meteor was made for it to replace the ageing 120B also HMD was later added to it but i fully understand it will fight certain jets so lets give it at least 1 better missile to give it a trade off
Meteor is a different kind of beast might be too much
Ive discussed the potential balancing of the F-4 ICE in my suggestion post for it (which has been passed on to the devs). Note that this was made two updates before the Su-27 and F-15 were introduced in game, at the time the F-16C and MiG-29SMT were the newest jets
Continuing the discussion from F-4 Phantom ICE: Improved Combat Efficiency:
no, dude, maybe better:
i know that it would be too much just wanted to say it can use them the 120B would be enough @DETROIT HOOD LEGEND yes i saw and i m very happy to see it being accepted its a Ledgendary Plane for us with some good camos to make money with
also guys Germany did test the F-15B once but i m not sure what Missiles got tested on it
Judging by the look of the rear fins its a sidewinder but too low quality to be sure
i don’t think it was a sidewinder
Ok, premium or squad vehicle)
Agreed, ICE and Tornadoes with AMRAAMs and 9M/L(I)s would be like 12.7
the ICE could be 12.3 because of the Platform its on same for Tornado ofcourse that needs to be tested
Wonder if they will add LAU-128 pylons as an option for the F-15s to carry wing AIM-120s
12.3 (IRIS-T + Aim-120B)
Ты ещё долго не увидишь 13.0-13.3 премиумного или полкового самолёта.
It will definitely be a premium or event but that’s ways off
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